Psting in AIBU for traffic - Bristol mum and newborn have gone missing, please keep your eyes open if in bristol!

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Apologies for posting here but the Avon and Somerset police are running an urgent appeal for the safe return of Bristol mum Charlotte Bevan and her four day old baby, who have gone missing from a central Bristol maternity unit and haven't been seen for over 12 hours. PLEASE keep an eye out for her and phone the police if you see her - she's white, around 5'8, dark hair, wearing a black top, black trousers and hospital slippers or flip flops. Her baby is wrapped in a stripey blanket.

Hoping and praying for a safe return sad

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/03/mother-baby-missing-bristol-maternity-hospital

living I didn't realise your experience was so recent. So glad to hear you are doing well now.

I had social services involvement too, after going into hospital - they were nothing but supportive, arranging support and helpful - practical stuff like childcare and a home help.

I'm not sure if SS are to blame for their bad image; they certainly aren't faultless but I thinking media stirring about 'baby snatching' doesn't help.

I think part of the issue is the stigma around PND and Puerperal Psychosis is hardly understood at all...I remember a conversation, some time ago, with a colleague where we discussing the subject and her opinion was that women with PND should have their babies taken away!

I just want to stress I'm not dismissing people who have have had awful experiences with them (SS), just describing my own situation.

Thank you for telling us about the candles randomname27. I was very moved by the thought of strangers placing candles to show support for Charlotte, Zaani and their family.

This was avoidable as many have said and I wonder if we will be the generation that really manages to change things. When I had AND when expecting DC3 my FIL asked my DH what I had to be depressed about. What with me having a lovely husband, home and two children already . Given I had had PND twice already - and then again after DC3 was born - and my only relative I was dying I did have plenty to be depressed about even if it wasn't a clinical response I was having.

Saying there is a stigma just promotes the stigma imho. Bottom line, choices need to be made about where the money is going to be spent and maybe if the NHS did less boob and nose jobs on TOWIE like wannabees there would be money to support women and babies who need a helping hand through no fault of their own.

maybe if the NHS did less boob and nose jobs on TOWIE like wannabees there would be money to support women and babies who need a helping hand through no fault of their own.

I don't think blaming spending of NHS money in other areas is particularly helpful, nor is it even necessary.

The report I mention stated that the cost to society of poor maternal mental health was 8.1billion with about a fifth being born the NHS and services, yet the cost to improve services to a level that met the minimum recommended was £337million.

I don't think its hard to do some maths and realise its not a question of there being no money to fund basic services.

I never professed to know about the finances of the NHS. I posted purely in an emotional way. It doesn't change anything so isn't that important.

I honestly don't think acknowledging that stigma exists is somehow promoting it or making it worse.

Saying stigma exists, lets challenge it is a positive thing. It's a long process though.

Many organisations which offer support to women suffering with postnatal illness are third sector/charities. Those types of organisations often plug the gap left by statutory services.

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Not sure of your post was directed at me, but I would not describe my experience as "awful".

Contrary to what some people believe the SWs were very professional and also very honest with me. I would have preferred an OP parenting assessment to one on a locked ward but I can fully understand why they did not want to take any chances.

The only thing which angers me is that my MH issues were a direct consequence of serious abuse and I want to know why SS did not help me when I was a child as I would have had a far better life if I had been removed from my parents, even if that meant going into a care home.

It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular ral, I just didn't want to sound dismissive of people who have had bad experiences.

I think it's completely understandable to feel angry about suffering abuse as a child, especially when others could have helped, but didn't. That would make me feel very angry too, I think.

SS also let me down numerous times over many years and maybe when they have to face up to their mistakes things will improve. If SW want "powers" and responsibilities they have to take it when things go wrong too.

why is there a day long gap in posts, unless it is just on my computer? Post from between Friday at 2 pm and Saturday at 8 pm all vanished?

doh! found them was getting mixed up between this thread and the "gutted" thread.