Dianne Abbott would be a wonderful pm

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I think she would do wonders for the country. Really wish she would cue milliband and be our next pm.

She has been pretty quiet recently, could this be because she is planning this?

Is anyone here from hackerney? She is very hands on there, well respected and admired.

Maybe the two people who also agreed that she is fab live in the borough and have had her personal help?

she wasn't worried about the west indian mums, she was worried about the sloppy state school teachers who don't run their schools properly and who take it for granted that children of west indian origin should fail at school. maybe she felt that her son would not be written off, by black or white teachers, if she paid through the nose to send her child to school.

I heard that ed milliband didn't have his name on his sons' birth certificates and didn't marry their mother until he became leader of the labour party. why was that, did he feel that he was too cool to be so conventional? what kind of man is that?

as for the finnish nurses, so what? white people go to hospital and insist that they don't want non whites to touch them. some also say that if they donate their organs, they don't want them to be given to non whites.

as for the finnish nurses, so what? white people go to hospital and insist that they don't want non whites to touch them. some also say that if they donate their organs, they don't want them to be given to non whites

I don't think anyone thinks that is OK either.

No, I think accusations of racism against DA are ridiculous, until you get to the Finnish nurses comment. That was just unpleasant, no two ways about it.

I don't like or dislike DA. While she often talks a lot of sense on some issues, she isn't PM material. But then, neither is the actual PM we've got at the moment, or any other party leader. There is such a dearth of talent in politics at the moment it is frightening.

I'd like to see Teresa May lead the Tories, Angela Eagle lead Labour, the Lib Dems-doesn't matter, they are destroyed anyway- Suzanne Whatsername lead UKIP and Tessa Jowell be Mayor of London.

creighton

Your last paragraph - are you seriously saying that the vast majority hold these views/think they are ok?

Also fairly sure you can't specify who gets your organs unless you are a live donor giving to a particular person.

Can't believe the level of vitriol levelled at DA, that or trying to turn her into a laughing stock! Blame the 1980//90s media for starting this. What black man or white woman would be so attacked? For what it's worth i am neither a Hackney constituent nor a black woman. But i respect her intelligence, bravery, outpokenness and passion. Yes, she has a failings but no more than any other politician/human being. As gor her son? I woild have done exactly the same in her circs rather than sacrifice his future on the altar of my idealistic principles.

No one is trying to turn her into a laughing stock.

She does a pretty good lob of it herself.

I didnt phrase that quite right. What i meant was that the lovely red-tops set her - as an ambitious, outspoken, left-leaning black, female politician - up to be a laughing stock. And so she has been seen as such by the great British public and is an easy target.

It's Hackney.

Are you her mum? My mum says things like "you should be PM TSS" But she's 76, barmy and my mum so can be forgiven.

No, the media didn't set her up to make all those ridiculous statements. She managed that all by herself.

Creighton You're saying it's ok for her to be racist because some other people are too?

Can't believe the level of vitriol levelled at DA,

We didn't start a thread called "let's all laugh at DA'. Someone started one saying she was perfect for PM and we're responding.

It's one thing being an ambitious, outspoken, left-leaning black, female politician - but if you don't know when to keep schtum, display racist tendencies and a profound lack of judgement, then it really doesn't matter what colour or gender you are, or what your political leanings are.

The only person responsible for what comes out of DA's mouth is DA.

I think the OP may be DA's Special Political Advisor and they hatched a plan for her to start this thread on the feminist, left-leaning Mumsnet in the hope everyone would agree and it would go viral in the manner of 'penis beaker', thus forcing the much-maligned Ed Milliband to stand down in favour of the 'people's politician.'

Sorry OP, guess it didn't work!

The only person responsible for what comes out of DA's mouth is DA.

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Come on then, quotes NOT out of context which are so ridiculous, please! Aware pf the Lawrence Twitter comments (for which she apologised) and the Finnish nurses already mentioned. Meanwhile, in 2014 she is speaking about English devolution, party leadership...

of course it wouldn't work. the level of open racism on mumsnet is surprising when you think that this website is supposed to have a 'middle class/educated' demographic. look at the various threads currently open dismissing racism or saying that victims of racism bring it on themselves and that no white person has ever done or said anything racist on purpose.

I like the way some of you favour mixed race (i.e. not offensively dark) oona king as a better mp/pm than DA. if that were the case, why is she not an mp now?

I'm sure DA is well aware of the distaste with which she is regarded by mumsnet posters.

Uh-huh - and? Her opinions and behaviours can't be undone simply by talking about English devolution and party leadership.

Oh absolutely creighton - it's one big racist conspiracy.

Evidence, Sir, evidence! All these sweeping comments about how awful she is? How/when/what/where/why??? Objectively and reasonably speaking and allowing for the occasional foot-in-mouth comments ALL politicians make.

A quick google will give you all the evidence you need.

She's got 27 years service in her constituency. She voted against the Iraq war. She's a Cambridge graduate. She was UK's first black female MP. Whatever your political persuasion, respect for those alone, people please!

Hah! Quick google came up with what i cited below. Come on, again, your evidence please!

Amazed at the praise for Oona King too-underwhelming lightweight.

And yes, I do respect DA for the reasons you mention TDMB.

What additional evidence do you want? You think that graduating from Cambridge, having 27 years service etc negates everything else that's come out of her mouth over the years? That's fine, your choice. I prefer to make my opinions based on what she has said and done as a serving politician.

TheDog'sMissingBollock What she said about the judges was not an occasional foot-in-mouth blunder: it was a considered remark in a newspaper article. And it's enough to make her unfit to be a junior Minister in an unimportant department.