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AIBU to be very pleased that Sheffield Utd have recognised that the rapist Ched Evans is toxic

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WeirdCatLady · 15/11/2014 17:20

Very good news.

Good to see some sense being shown (finally).

The rapist Ched Evans will not be signed by Sheffield United because of the 'toxic' reaction to their (stupid) plan.

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twofingerstoGideon · 16/11/2014 19:50

I do agree broadly with all the outrage but is no-one at all uneasy about the fact that he's served his sentence and needs to get on with his life but isn't going to allowed to earn a living?
There are zero-hours contracts on offer at Sports Direct I hear. I see no reason whatsoever why he should be offered a footballing job or anything else in the public eye. When the rest of us are unemployed we're expected to accept any shitty job offer going. Why should he be an exception? In fact, if he had any morals at all (which seems unlikely) he'd be trying to stay out of the public eye.

Andrewofgg · 16/11/2014 19:53

Many of the poor sods working at Sports Direct are young women, twofingerstoGideon, please think again.

Jux · 16/11/2014 19:58

OK, so the sewage workers are too good for him; I agree with you. So promote them, and get the really shitty jobs done by ex-cons, including the rapist Ched Evans.

TheAlias · 16/11/2014 20:01

Yep, we've also established we don't want him working as a van driver. Perhaps a football club is the best place for him?!

twofingerstoGideon · 16/11/2014 20:18

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I wasn't suggesting he works for Sports Direct. I was answering the point that he was being treated as a 'special case', ie. more disadvantageously than other people. Didn't express it very well, did I? In reality I can't think of any job that's particularly suited to an unrepentant rapist and would sincerely hope that even the most unscrupulous employer would not wish to employ him.

ChelsyHandy · 16/11/2014 20:29

I'm sure the girlfriend's daddy will give him a job in his business, after all he has shown his support for rapists is seemingly unlimited.

I'd also never heard of this fantasy situation where convicted rapists walked back into their former jobs, which were miraculously kept open for them.

Andrewofgg · 16/11/2014 20:52

Twofingers Office work in open plan conditions is about as safe as it gets, but I don't know if CE is capable of it. There are trolley-messengers in my open plan office who are always near other people, I suppose he could do a job like that without putting anyone at risk.

But of course he did rape that poor woman when he was about his work, did he? If he has not learnt his lesson he will be a bloody menace in his off-duty hours indefinitely. And in spring 2017 he will be out of licence and unsupervised.

Andrewofgg · 16/11/2014 20:54

Oh bugger, I meant did not rape which is perhaps obvious.

mymummademelistentoshitmusic · 16/11/2014 20:59

His options must be even more limited than most - he's obviously not very bright or self aware, is he.

chaya5738 · 16/11/2014 21:15

Yes, and there are always after work drinks in office environments...

SevenZarkSeven · 16/11/2014 21:17

All offices have meeting rooms, many have lifts, lots of office based jobs you end up travelling with colleagues to places for various reasons.....

And that's before you get into the after work social life. If work employ a man who has been convicted of raping a woman in a situation where alcohol was consumed then what about the boozy after work things and xmas parties. They'd have a duty of care to warn all the women and keep them warned, new ones and things surely? Or would they not be allowed to and then what? If HR see him heading off from the xmas do with Michelle from accounts who can barely stand up? It's a minefield and one that I think most employers would want to avoid.

SevenZarkSeven · 16/11/2014 21:17

xposts chaya Smile

chaya5738 · 16/11/2014 21:36

Yes, I think an unrepentant rapist who raped a woman while she was too drunk to consent is a worry wherever alcohol and vaginas exist in the same space. A misogynist, sexual predator with a sense of entitlement should be kept well away from all women.

Andrewofgg · 16/11/2014 22:23

chaya and Seven You are right and I apologise. Difficult to know where he can work, isn't it?

Of course there is a problem if management see Michelle from accounts far gone in drink leaving the office party with Bill from billing even if Bill is not a convicted rapist, especially if he's also had just enough to drink to relax his inhibitions and sense of what he ought and ought not to do. A bloody minefield there.

PuffinsAreFicticious · 17/11/2014 00:13

I am involved with recruitment for my company. He wouldn't even make it past the first screening. Lots of women I have a duty of care to, the risk assessment for him would be ridiculous. We would be open to being sued for astronomical amounts if he behaved inappropriately or god forbid, raped a colleague, he wouldn't be worth taking on. Nor would anyone on licence for a violent crime like him.

No special treatment, merely the consequences of perpetrating violent sexual crimes against women.

Thumbwitch · 17/11/2014 00:20

This might get deleted but I'll give it a go anyway - it's a petition to ask the FA to change their policy on employing sex offenders.

differentnameforthis · 17/11/2014 02:05

but you would think he would want better for his own daughter.

The fact that he doesn't I just find plain sinister.

YY, like what happens behind his closed doors that he thinks a convicted rapist is innocent..I have said before that his backing of CE speaks volumes for what he finds acceptable. And again, how far have her boundaries been pushed that she doesn't see him for what he is & needs to hold onto him at all costs.

He has served his time and is being punished again which seems wrong RTFT.

He
Has
Not
Served
His
Time.

He is still on licence, therefore, STILL serving his time.

chaya5738 totally agree wrt yuor post at Sun 16-Nov-14 21:36:03.

To be honest, I don't think any convicted rapist has the right to return to work...I don't care if CE never works again. It's not like his victim has been able to return to her old job & life is it?

sashh · 17/11/2014 06:13

Reports that Natasha's daddy is going to give little cheddy a job www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ched-evans-fiancees-millionaire-dad-4640210

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WeirdCatLady · 17/11/2014 08:34

Jesus wept. What kind of low life is he?

Even if he believes that the rapist Ched Evans isnt a rapist (which he is) then this is a "man" who cheated on his daughter?!?!

Warped values.

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WeirdCatLady · 17/11/2014 08:37

And I've signed the petition. Good idea.

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TheAlias · 17/11/2014 08:40

Really? He was seeing Natasha when the rape happened? Good grief.

My Dad would be out for blood and he's never hurt anyone in his life.

Andrewofgg · 17/11/2014 08:49

Please don't say the rape happened. Rape and other crime does not happen. People do things. Every adult human is personally responsible for his or her own criminal acts.

TheAlias · 17/11/2014 08:51

Sorry, I knew I was going to get into trouble for that but couldn't think of a better turn of phrase.

Andrewofgg · 17/11/2014 08:57

How about he raped the victim?

SmilesandPilesOfPresents · 17/11/2014 08:57

Alias, ignore that. MNers tend to get wound up over the most daft things.

Raped happened/he raped her, we all know what you ment.