... to ask if MN has a grumpy 'old' women topic?

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I know there is pedants corner but I was wondering if there was anywhere where like minded people who want to complain about words like amazeballs, and other grumpy things can go and be grumpy without being told to get a life?

I have also been thinking about asking MN if it would be possible to make Chat no longer 90 days only. We have the new 30 day only topic, so I don't see why Chat should disappear. I think it's partly why it doesn't get used as much as it should.

Also, I've asked before, but it's never really been listened to if we could have a 'Only if you can take it' [Heated Debate/Say What You Really Mean] section. It's been successful on other sites I've used. Clearly the isms still stand as being worth of deletion, but it's perfectly ok to tell other posters not to be a fucking twat and actually listen to what is being said etc. It gets very heated about the actual topic, but as you can let off steam it ends up being quite a good debate (another MN of old thing too really). Also, not googleable.

MNHQ ^^ As you're here anyway - saves me starting new threads in site stuff!

Hic Christmas Eve hampers with bubbles / PJs / etc have not, thank heaven, made it to NZ yet

Not to some corners maybe! All my friends and family in NZ do both

Do you live near P Rise by any chance?

Is there a Christmas Room 101 thread? Sounds brilliant. I have so much to put in there the door wouldn't shut.

Jesus Baby Showers? Please enlighten me... Or did you mean, Jesus! Baby Showers...

Elf on a shelf? Elf up yer arse more like. And North pole breakfasts on 1st December? - Advent gifts? Sweet baby Jesus (shower) Now, I love Christmas but Advent gifts & North pole breakfasts, Good God.

talking of breakfasts, people who plan what they are eating xmas eve, christ on a bike, eat whatever's there

Another vote for Grumps Corner - I would feel right at home

Is all this Christmas bollocks a bit of oneupmanship though?

One mum says that she gives her children a small gift of new pyjamas (to get them into bed) on christmas eve, so the next mum says that she gives them a hamper and the next says that they do something every fucking day in December.

yes - we'll have elves strapped to fireworks soon and santa will be arriving at the end of summer

What I hate most about Elf on A Shelf is I have had one of those Elfs for decades before the book was written. It originally held a little box of chocolates. It was a perennial generic christmas present of the sort that sat near the cash register and you might buy it in a hurry to give a teacher, neighbor, or in our case a young uncle, just adult enough to be called on to help build bikes (and drink) on Christmas Eve, who grabbed his niece and nephews a present (when he was buying the beer). I got the elf with candy, my brother's each got a reindeer with a box of candy strapped to his back.

That Uncle died about 6 years later, after he returned from Vietnam, and that stupid book has ruined my elf memory because somebody thought he was Elf on the Shelf.

ChippingIn Do you live near P Rise by any chance?

I'm on South Island, is that near P Rise? Maybe there's a market for Christmas hampers for the sheep and lambs mint sauce PJs

Are you serious with the Jesus Baby Shower? Can it get worse? Don't answer that, it's probably already got there.

ChippingIn get your friends to send you Whittaker's chocolate bars. All of them. You'll never need to grump about how crap Cadbury's is again (was anyone else on that thread or just me?)

I've found my tribe! Elf-on-the-frigging-shelf, sodding hampers, Christmas Eve suppers of "bubbles and yummy nibbly bits", "my PFB is twelve and I think one of her school friends has told her Santa isn't real, AIBU if I go round to the school friend's house and massacre the entire family?".
YY to O-levels being harder, and don't get me started on university degrees. I had to do finals at the end of three years and there was no question of retakes.

Ok I haven't actually had an invite to a Jesus Baby Shower but it's only a matter of time...

Isn't the point of a baby shower that it's for the mother prior to the birth? Are people having Jesus Baby Showers not a little 2000 years late? Not to mention that if you believe in the birth aspect, he's also already dead?

Here is a Jesus baby shower :www.parentdish.co.uk/2010/12/21/church-holds-baby-shower-for-jesus/

I think the idea, which is a sound one, was to get donations of baby stuff for struggling families. But I would rather that the vicar had just asked people to donate.

Better link. www.parentdish.co.uk/2010/12/21/church-holds-baby-shower-for-jesus/

snort! at HicDraconis - Jesus baby shower 2000 years too late! Ha ha.

Hic, I read the Cadbury's thread but I don't think I posted. Certainly Rose's Chocs are not what they were. The chocolate is all grainy and the centres seem to taste mostly of sweetness and nothing else. I had put it down to my becoming a GOW.

Anybody else here remember the days when Quality Street were fun to unwrap, what with all the little tub and barrel shapes being sealed with a round of paper over the foil? Simple pleasures, when not working your arse off for your A Levels, which were also harder then. Did you know that it is now possible to progress through A level Geography and a degree in same without doing ANY physical geography? And then be let loose to teach erosion to 15 year olds?

Ah, yes, Quality Street. And they came in a tin not a stiffened cardboard contraption. I agree that chocolate is not what it was. It is beginning to taste like forrin muck.

No physical geography? I remember snoozing through double geography whilst a teacher with an impenetrable Welsh accent droned on about Durdle Door.

Please can I join
YY to O levels being harder - sitting outside a classroom waiting for your French oral ( 1'm 59 and still remember) and trying to remember big chunks of Shakespeare for quotes.
Today its going into clothes shops that think I want to look like a 20 year old or my Gran

Can I join in too? My DiL is doing Elf on a f-ing shelf AND special pjs for Christmas eve and I can't say anything as I am the MiL....she has told me how this elf crap is supposed to work and I have to go along with it and God am I grumpy today!

So where did this Elf on a Shelf business come from then?

Just tried to phone bloody HMRC, stuck on hold listening to sodding whale type music for half an hour, Yahoo mail keeps playing up and I cant find the bloody foil - Gah.
went out earlier, shops all have their heating on full blast, playing Christmas music while the customers all sweat buckets, and another thing, 2 offers did not go through at the till so I had to go to customer service for a refund, they tell me the offer is over so I say I only bought these for the offer, so give me a refund or I want to return the items, they look at me like I am mad. AND I have a spot, right on my nose.

elf on a shelf comes from a book written in 2005 with commercial spin offs in mind... a triumph of marketing considering NO-ONE follows its original premise of Christmads being cancelled if they touch the elf and all sorts of other weird creepiness... etc etc etc...

by the way - hi, I am grumpy too......