to think we should all back edd to stop the tories and ukip getting into power

[wilsonq2]

This weekend many people in labour have turned against edd. I think its just too late to replace him and we should support him to stop the other two getting in
The has tag has been hijacked I think, not sure if it is genuine.

[LadyRabbit]

TheNewStatesman is speaking an awful lot of sense here. We do need to have the immigration talk, out in the open with no accusations of racism otherwise what we get are single policy parties like UKIP who act as more acceptable conduits for some very unsavoury bigoted and racist individuals. The immigration conversation has to go hand in hand with the how do we pay for pensions conversations.

Yes to dialling back to 1990 levels of immigration. Yes to a more equal society - any society is only as rich as its poorest members - and with the increased pressure on food banks and so many below the poverty like in the last five years, we have a lot of work to do.

[LadyRabbit]

Ed isn't the answer though, OP! He's a problem because the electorate can't see past his awkwardness and Hampstead do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do and in doing so miss that Labour (while in a bit of a mess) is still likely to do more to make us a fairer more equal country than the Tories et al.

[Dudurama]

Ed is the last of Labour's problems.

Honestly, the way the Labour Party shrug and act like everybody else did the things they did, caused the problems they caused, and spent the money they spent, as if the whole country are morons and cannot remember a few years ago, it's an insult to people's intelligence.

There are people whose parents and grandparents voted Labour, whose whole towns voted Labour, who saw the pit closures as the fault of the Tories and who railed against them with the unions, who would now sooner vote for the devil himself.


Question is, who do those people vote for? The tories?... pmsl probably not.

[WetAugust]

The Labour aprty emerged to look after the working man.

The current Labour party has totally lost its purpose.

What we need is another party that puts UK citizens and their welfare first, before business interests and before we hand over billions of pounds to the EU.