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to never sing along with God Save the Queen?

293 replies

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 12:28

The fact I never sing it comes up now and again and today was one of those times, at our local remembrance day parade. Right at the end the minister said 'and we'll now sing our national anthem'. I can't recall God Save the Queen being part of it,before but regardless I just stand and don't song. I don't make a big thing of it, I just don't sing.

Simiraly the Edinburgh tattoo it was sang, I stood alongside everyone but didn't sing.

I don't make a big fuss and thankfully I'm not at any events where it's sang

Dh says it's rude. I say she's not my queen, I wish her no ill but I will not sing that song.

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zeeboo · 09/11/2014 14:58

I think a Briton not singing the national anthem on a day like today is the height of rudeness I'm afraid.

hiccupgirl · 09/11/2014 15:02

I don't sing God save the Queen either. I'm not religious so that bit's irrelevant to me and I think the monarchy is well overdue retirement so I'm not singing a song to someone who I do not consider to be significant to me or my values as harmless as she is.

I would happy sing a national anthem to do with being British or English without any mention of the monarchy or God preferably.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 15:03

I take your point but I really don't see the connection between the lives lost and the Queen.

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ShirleyYoureNotSerious · 09/11/2014 15:06

YANBU. There is no god in my world and no proven god in anyone else's and it would be far better if there were no queen too. She's as much my queen as Windsor's my castle.

Back in the day when the BBC would end its programmes at midnight with a rendition of the national anthem my aunt would stand with her hands behind her back and try to insist upon everyone else in the room doing it too. This did not go down well with my athiest grandfather who gave her a Hmm look when she tried it in his house!

Pumpkinpositive · 09/11/2014 15:06

I wouldn't sing it. I have no truck with singing an anthem about one's nation, but I object to an anthem that glorifies one single unelected citizen of that nation.

vintagesewingmachine · 09/11/2014 15:06

Do what you want to do. Sing or don't sing. All those men and women who have served and continue to serve in our Armed Forces did and do so in order that the likes of you can be free to express yourselves in whichever manner you wish. Remember that when you are balancing on your silly little soap box.Angry

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 15:07

I don't see the connection either, but it is a traditional part of the Remembrance Sunday commemorations.

The school I am a governor at always has a remembrance ceremony the Friday before Remembrance Sunday and we sing the national anthem at that as well. It is a very old school and we have a war memorial in the school grounds with the names of all the previous pupils who have lost their lives during both the world wars and subsequent conflicts.

Behoove · 09/11/2014 15:10

Good point vintage
We are privileged to be free to argue about this.

BackOnlyBriefly · 09/11/2014 15:10

that the likes of you can be free to express yourselves in whichever manner you wish.

But you are clearly angry that we are expressing ourselves so are you not dishonouring them?

Poopooweewee · 09/11/2014 15:14

Completely agree with ShirleyYoureNotSerious's sensible post.

grovel · 09/11/2014 15:14

You don't have to think of her as your Queen but you can't escape the fact that you are her subject.

KimberBentonIsGoingSolo · 09/11/2014 15:15

Nah. I can post and not care at the same time. I'm good at multitasking.

BackOnlyBriefly · 09/11/2014 15:17

Yes we are her subjects. That's sad isn't it in this day and age.

26Point2Miles · 09/11/2014 15:18

Your DH is right. You are rude

But your thread at trying to be all controversial is quite funny. And as others have pointed out, she is still your queen anyway, regardless.

JanineStHubbins · 09/11/2014 15:20

Why is it rude not to sing a national anthem?

ShirleyYoureNotSerious · 09/11/2014 15:20

I'm no-one's fucking "subject" thank you very much grovel! Shock Angry

You may care to grovel. I don't.

See what I did there? Grin

PunkrockerGirl · 09/11/2014 15:21

Well said vintage. It's not about religion or the monarchy. It's about showing respect for the fallen.

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 15:21

I don't care whether I am the queen's "subject" or not. It isn't important to me. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about it.

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 15:21

And I agree with vintage's sentiments.

ZingOfSeven · 09/11/2014 15:29

Grin @she's not my Queen
sorry OP that sounds like a spoilt kid stomping and saying "I'm not eating this" or "I hate you"

but as long as you are a British citizen she is your Queen.

I'm Hungarian and in order to become a British citizen I had to swear allegiance to the Queen.
so she is my Queen now (hands of Phil!Grin )
We sing the National Anthem and we stand up to do so - wherever we are. During the Olympics every time a British (or a Hungarian) person was presented their gold medal/s I'd remind the children to stand up while singing the National Anthem, because it's respectful.
Same on Christmas Day before the Queen's speech (or after? I forget)
My PILs, DH (all English) find the standing up a hassle, but I was brought up that way - in Hungary you would be very rude to not stand up!

But singing or not is a personal choice, after all some people feel embarrassed to sing in a crowd (or have terrible voices and prefer to keep quiet).
And if you don't sing or stand up because you are anti-Royal or whatever that's your choice.

Pumpkinpositive · 09/11/2014 15:35

I have respect for the fallen. I certainly don't have respect for an unelected head of state, and certainly not the craven, simpering kind of "respect" embodied in that anthem.

How on earth does not singing God save our queen, which contains not a single word of praise or tribute to our war dead or their sacrifice, indicate a lack of respect for them?

I respect those who died in the First and Second World wars. I don't respect the monarchy. I would be a liar if I participated in singing those words.

geekaMaxima · 09/11/2014 15:37

treaclesoda - I live how nobody is engaging with your point about NI! Par for the course, I suppose Smile

So... lots and lots of people who were born and currently live in the UK, yet certainly would not agree that Liz is their queen. If they carry Irish passports rather than British passports, they might be correct. (Can you be forced into citizenship of a country if you don't claim it? Not sure).

A good illustration of how the claim "if you're in the UK you have no choice about THE being YOUR queen" isn't necessarily true, IMO.

geekaMaxima · 09/11/2014 15:39

THE queen*

browneyedgirl86 · 09/11/2014 15:42

I won't sing the national anthem either. Can't stand the royal family. I don't know the words anyhow.

DastardlyDachshund · 09/11/2014 15:42

I don't sing it as like previous posters I am not religious and hypocrisy is my biggest bugbear. I do however much prefer the monarchy to our politicians even when the crown does get passed on. I would even prefer Charles to have it rather than William as at least the former is actually interested in the job.

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