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to never sing along with God Save the Queen?

293 replies

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 12:28

The fact I never sing it comes up now and again and today was one of those times, at our local remembrance day parade. Right at the end the minister said 'and we'll now sing our national anthem'. I can't recall God Save the Queen being part of it,before but regardless I just stand and don't song. I don't make a big thing of it, I just don't sing.

Simiraly the Edinburgh tattoo it was sang, I stood alongside everyone but didn't sing.

I don't make a big fuss and thankfully I'm not at any events where it's sang

Dh says it's rude. I say she's not my queen, I wish her no ill but I will not sing that song.

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 12:53

So no Queen results in a dictatorship?

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Sallyingforth · 09/11/2014 12:54

I suppose then Rita that you don't recognise Her Majesty's Government ?

Alisvolatpropiis · 09/11/2014 12:54

I find it interesting how overwrought Americans get when singing their anthem.

I remember going to a baseball game and being a bit Shock at grown men crying. I was about 11 at the time but it has stuck with me.

Op you don't have to sing it. Lots of people don't. It is not a big deal.

Gillian1980 · 09/11/2014 12:54

Don't sing it either. Same as that I don't join in with hymn or prayer in church.

I don't believe in god and I'm not a royalist, therefore I would feel hypocritical doing either.

Out if respect for those who do believe I just stand and listen.

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 12:55

It is dirge like isn't it. I love the rousing tune of Land of Hope and Glory. If we could amend some of the words I think it would make a splendid national anthem.

I also love Jerusalem. I didn't realise until just now that the original poem was set to music in 1916 during the first world war when an uplifting new English hymn was required.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 12:56

Whilst I might not agree with all of them yes, I accept a democratically elected government.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 09/11/2014 12:56

Andrew

I was pleased to see it. The Irish war dead should be recognised too and I'm glad the Irish Ambassador was there to lay the wreath for them.

Dumbledoresgirl · 09/11/2014 12:57

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

I don't believe in God, and I think the concept of victory is a bit out-dated, and the tune itself is a complete dirge, and I don't care one whit whether anyone sings it or not, but it is a disgrace that any adult in possession of their full faculties does not at least know the words of their national anthem.

I have posted them so anyone who needs to can learn them.

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 12:57

Saying the queen is not our queen is like saying that David Cameron is not our prime minister. I didn't vote for him, but he is still our prime minister.

WerewolfBarMitzvah · 09/11/2014 12:58

Can we sing the Dad's Army song instead do you think?
That, or California Gurls, would make an acceptable replacement imo.

Behoove · 09/11/2014 13:00

Andrew

I was pleased to see that.

Monmouth · 09/11/2014 13:00

YANBU, sing/don't sing, entirely a matter for you.

I think the Queen probably thinks she's your Queen Rita.

HoneyNutBunny · 09/11/2014 13:00

Niether the "democratically elected" government or the Royals are democratic and God is the greatest tyrant of the lot! all that hell fire stuff. No time for any of it.

sickntiredtoo · 09/11/2014 13:03

She is your queen and you are her subject whether you like it or not.

mumeeee · 09/11/2014 13:05

If you have lived in the UK then she is your Queen. Got save the Queen is the National Anthem. I agree with you DH it is rude not to sing it.

Shallishanti · 09/11/2014 13:06

YADNBU OP
I really object to the fact that our 'national anthem' is in fact a prayer about the queen. It's a barrier to patriotism. Jerusalem should replace it. I can't remember having to take part...but tbh I would even object to standing while it was sung, that seems to be endorsing the sentiment just as much as actually singing it. Not like being somewhere when people pray, am happy to sit/stand quietly with head bowed, that seems respectful to believers.
when/where does it get sung anyway?

BaffledSomeMore · 09/11/2014 13:07

Pretty much the same as Miaow. Atheism and republican tendencies plus the dreadful dirge it is put me off.

But I'll sing the Welsh anthem with gusto and pride :)

ItsGotBellsOn · 09/11/2014 13:09

Never sing it.

Irish family - my father was strongly anti-monarchy when we were growing up, so it was normal in our house not to stand for the UK national anthem, not to sing it and to turn off the telly for the Queens Speech on Christmas Day Grin

As an adult, I stand and am respectful, but I find it a ridiculous song and notion and wish it wasn't our national anthem.

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 13:10

No I didn't vote for David Cameron either but a flawed democratic process was followed leading to him gaining that position.

No such process exists for the Queen.

I won't accept a head of state that the people within that state has no say over.

Now that's a dictatorship.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 09/11/2014 13:10

No Rita, it is a monarchy. Confused

ShakesBootyFlabWobbles · 09/11/2014 13:11

YANBU to sing and BU to stand respectfully to those that do.

I can't really be arsed debating the is she your queen or not. Factually she is as you are British, but if you say she isn't well so be it... yawn.

Sallyingforth · 09/11/2014 13:13

I accept a democratically elected government

But Rita, it's Her Majesty's Government. She opens Parliament and reads out her government's policies. New laws have to receive the Royal Assent. How can you not say she's your queen?

dingit · 09/11/2014 13:13

Land of hope and glory was written to be our national anthem. It was rejected as there is no mention of the monarch.

LeBearPolar · 09/11/2014 13:17

Whether you like it or not, she is your queen if you are a British citizen. And your saying she's not like some child in a strop doesn't make it true Grin

And as Sallyingforth says, if you accept the government are your government then you have to by default accept that the queen is your queen.

Hushabyelullaby · 09/11/2014 13:22

I don't sing it, but not for any reason other than 'God says'. I am not religious and don't believe in God, so I won't be a hypocrite. For the same reason I don't say prayers or sing hymns, of course I stand respectfully and quietly and people have either not noticed (unlikely), or just don't comment.