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to never sing along with God Save the Queen?

293 replies

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 09/11/2014 12:28

The fact I never sing it comes up now and again and today was one of those times, at our local remembrance day parade. Right at the end the minister said 'and we'll now sing our national anthem'. I can't recall God Save the Queen being part of it,before but regardless I just stand and don't song. I don't make a big thing of it, I just don't sing.

Simiraly the Edinburgh tattoo it was sang, I stood alongside everyone but didn't sing.

I don't make a big fuss and thankfully I'm not at any events where it's sang

Dh says it's rude. I say she's not my queen, I wish her no ill but I will not sing that song.

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Coffeethrowtrampbitch · 09/11/2014 13:22

Wouldn't ever sing it, absolutely horrible song. How on earth could you keep a national anthem which advocated violence towards a section of the population, and just agree to not sing that verse?
It is totally inappropriate and outdated and needs replaced with something which doesnt alienate people.

BadLad · 09/11/2014 13:23

I'll never understand the she's not my Queen thought.

I wished and still do wish the foulest and most gruesome of deaths on Tony Blair, but the fact is he was my Prime Minister for a decade or so.

avocadotoast · 09/11/2014 13:24

I don't sing it, same as (as others have said) I don't join in with prayers or hymns. I feel it'd be hypocritical as I don't particularly support the monarchy and I don't believe in god.

Although there was a lovely awkward moment at a wedding where the vicar made eye contact with DH and clocked him not singing. He didn't back down Grin

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 13:26

So, why did you get married in church then avocado?

Alisvolatpropiis · 09/11/2014 13:27

Think she was attending someone else's wedding, Bun

BadLad · 09/11/2014 13:27

She doesn't say it was her wedding - just a wedding

FannyFifer · 09/11/2014 13:29

I was never taught god save the queen, have never sung it in and never will.
I don't ever recall even hearing it when I was growing up except when England were playing football or something.
Flower of Scotland had always been my national anthem.

ItsGotBellsOn · 09/11/2014 13:30

'british citizen'

Aren't we all her SUBJECTS, not citizens?

Urgh.

LilAnnieAmphetamine · 09/11/2014 13:32

I don't stand and I don't sing either.

OnlyLovers · 09/11/2014 13:33

I don't and wouldn't sing it. I don't believe in a god and am not keen on the Queen being the head of state, nor on church and state being intertwined. And I hate the fact that technically we're 'subjects', as Bells says above. It's not the Middle Ages, FGS.

Alisvolatpropiis · 09/11/2014 13:34

We're both.

People who emigrate to Britain obtain citizenship not subjectship. Because the latter is simply part and parcel of the former. For the time being anyway.

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 13:35

Whoops. I should have read the post properly. My apologies.

Regardless of whether you agree with the national anthem I think it is disrespectful not to stand (excluding disabilities). Not standing just to prove a point is attention seeking IMO.

AesSedai · 09/11/2014 13:35

I don't sing it, but not for any reason other than 'God says'

Do any of you that are proposing Jerusalem for our National Anthem actually KNOW what the first line is? How ironic Hmm

Bunbaker · 09/11/2014 13:36

I don't have a problem with Jerusalem, but then I'm not an atheist.

sickntiredtoo · 09/11/2014 13:38

Yes we are subjects , that's what it says in out passports only
Rita as far as I understand it after an election the Queen invites the winner to form a government.They need her permission.

LizzieMint · 09/11/2014 13:39

I don't sing either - I'm another atheist republican, so it would be entirely hypocritical to. I also remember objecting to doing the Brownie promise when I was young because you had to swear allegiance to the Queen (at the time I was catholic so the god bit didn't bother me then), I think I was 9 or so. Didn't last long in Brownies!

It's just personal choice, surely.

sickntiredtoo · 09/11/2014 13:39

sorry 'anyway' not 'only'

OnlyLovers · 09/11/2014 13:40

sick, I know. That's why I said I hated that 'technically we're subjects'. My point was I think it should be otherwise, not that I don't believe it to be officially the case. Confused

OnlyLovers · 09/11/2014 13:40

Oops, sorry, sick, jumped the gun and assumed you were addressing me!

fuctifino · 09/11/2014 13:41

I don't sing it, I don't know the words and I can't remember when I was somewhere when it would've Benn sung.
I do sing the Welsh national anthem much to my dh's annoyance when the rugby is on as I do know the words.

darlingfascistbullyboy · 09/11/2014 13:46

I don't sing it.

It would be great if we had a decent national anthem but God Save the Queen is just crap - I don't believe in god & neither do I particularly want to save the queen so it is meaningless to me. I quite like Oh Canada ... especially if you avoid the god part in the last verse.

Boomtownsurprise · 09/11/2014 13:47

Why would I give a shiny shit if you, one person in a million or more, sings or doesn't?

I haven't sung it either. Didn't occur to me to write a thread on it. I didn't go to church today either. So what.

Viviennemary · 09/11/2014 13:50

I do not approve of the words of the national anthem and would no longer ever sing it having been more or less forced to sing it at school. The national anthem should be about the country not about saving the family Windsor. I wish we could have a decent anthem instead of that total horrible dirge.

treaclesoda · 09/11/2014 13:51

I always stand and I sing if I feel like it and don't sing if I don't feel like it. I don't much like the royal family although the queen is a very dignified lady and I have some respect for her.

But, playing devils advocate I know, what if you're born in the UK but you don't accept the democratically elected government as your government? There are after all several UK MPs who don't take their place in the house of commons because they don't want to recognise or be a part of her majesty's government. Is the queen still their queen, and their voter's queen? And would anyone be brave enough to go to eg West Belfast and tell them that she is their queen? Wink

OnlyLovers · 09/11/2014 13:54

Boomtown, if you're as upset as you seem to be then why read the thread? People start threads about all kinds of things; not all will be of interest to everyone but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. Otherwise MN wouldn't exist.