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Original poster

to think it's too bloody dark too early and Scotland should have its own timezone if they want lighter mornings?

193 replies

MardyBra · 26/10/2014 17:55

Just that really.

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specialsubject · 26/10/2014 18:10

two time zones, job done. And no need for whingeing.

this isn't stirring. This time change wastes a load of energy, increases accidents and means those that go to work or school come home in the dark, so they sit on their arses rather than going out and running about. Hence we get fatter.

livingzuid · 26/10/2014 18:11

Of course as soon as you cross the border England and Scotland cease to share any similarities. Like those living in North Yorkshire and Cumbria and so on don't have the same problems with a lack of light Confused

I like having a bit of sunlight for at least part of the day as I spend most of it cooped up in the office. And it heralds the rundown to Christmas which I think is one of the loveliest times of the year. YABU.

LineRunner · 26/10/2014 18:12

Why can't the hill farmers just get up earlier.

specialsubject · 26/10/2014 18:12

link to currently dormant campaign and answers:

www.lighterlater.org/faq.html

LineRunner · 26/10/2014 18:12

Deadpan ^^

Bowlersarm · 26/10/2014 18:13

YABU

I like it.

CantBeBotheredThinking · 26/10/2014 18:13

If the clocks hadn't gone back then I would be walking my daughter to nursery in the dark as soon as we go back after half term so yes it would affect school children in England too. I live in the north of England and most schools round here start at 8.30, before the clocks went back sunrise here was nearly 8 am.

Varya · 26/10/2014 18:14

All the clock-changing and dark evenings are pain. Bring back double summer time and stop the continual returning to GMT,for goodness sake. This is 2014 not 1882.

Littlehomebird · 26/10/2014 18:14

Perhaps you should go back & re read what you typed then because it sure sounds like you're blaming Scotland.

nulgirl · 26/10/2014 18:17

Well I'm in Scotland and also hate the clocks going back. I'd be happy to stay on BST all year round.

With regard to the poster who was frothing about accidents on the way to school, hasn't it been shown that it actually causes more accidents/ deaths due to the dark evenings where more people are out and about rather than just going to and from one location?

Yama · 26/10/2014 18:18

I live in Scotland and would prefer BST all year round.

However, I will live with GMT in winter if it saves lives. Greater good and all that.

livingzuid · 26/10/2014 18:18

I'm not blaming Scotland. I'm just saying we should be able to go our own way. And it wouldn't affect school children in England littlehomebird.

OP you need geography lessons. England does not constitute London and the home counties.

Toooldtobearsed · 26/10/2014 18:18

S'cuse me, I am in't north. Near(ish) Scotish border and I like lighter mornings thank you. How far down the country do you want to have different time zones?

I am a lone voice here. Need to sleep later than 5am, then I would not be roaming the countryside in the dark Grin

GentleOtter · 26/10/2014 18:19

LineRunner, if we got up any earlier it would become Pythonesque. Grin

Farmers have electrical lighting these days so please stop blaming us for the tilt of the earth. We just do the tilth of the earth.

The time change is for children getting to school safely.

FrancesNiadova · 26/10/2014 18:21

Oh yanbu! (Hates the dark afternoon)

BuggersMuddle · 26/10/2014 18:21

It's a goady thread because of the tone of the OP. By all means consider if the UK would be better off with two time zones or double summertime, but 'if they want it' does rather suggest that Scotland are imposing GMT on the UK. Last I checked the G didn't stand for Glasgow Wink

Littlehomebird · 26/10/2014 18:22

At the risk of being accused of frothing - no exhaust it's not dark at 3.30pm when school children are going home.

GentleOtter · 26/10/2014 18:23

Anyone here from Shetland?

phlebasconsidered · 26/10/2014 18:23

It's a hangover from the Defence of the Realm Act (DORA) from the IWW. The clocks were forcibly changed then to enable higher production levels in both munitions and agriculture, plus the minimisation of accidents due to blackouts. In addition, there was a huge concern about the workers drinking and losing hours, so you can blame DORA for the licensing hours as well.

There is no real need for it now, it's a relatively new thing. It should be able to be changed now as is reasonable.

AnyoneForTardis · 26/10/2014 18:24

With regard to the poster who was frothing about accidents on the way to school, hasn't it been shown that it actually causes more accidents/ deaths due to the dark evenings where more people are out and about rather than just going to and from one location?

I don't think this is a goady thread at all, and I was thinking the same thing last night.

Methe · 26/10/2014 18:24

Yanbu. I'd rather drive to work with my lights on and have half an hours daylight when I get home.

Darkness is miserable :(

Coolas · 26/10/2014 18:27

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nancy75 · 26/10/2014 18:27

I think the clocks should go forward an hour in winter and stay at BST in summer. I don't care about dark mornings, I hate dark afternoons

PrincessOfChina · 26/10/2014 18:29

I'd rather have light at the end of the working day when we're not rushing around to get everyone to work/nursery. Leaving work in the dark at 5pm makes me just go home and put PJ's on, not do anything useful.

nancy75 · 26/10/2014 18:30

Australia have different time zones with the one country, it must be possible to do it here. Maybe Scotland could go back an hour, midlandsish and up stay the same and the south go forward and hour - that could work