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To HATE the way my friends educate their children?

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Littlefrenchmummy · 25/10/2014 21:25

I love reading things on mumsnet, especially this section. Today I was confronted with a situation that happens so often in my life and really gets me angry... You ladies are very honest so tell me if Im being a bitch or if you would feel the same.

Today my husband and I caught up with some old friends, like us they have a 4 year old boy. From the minute we met to when we left he trantrumed. He cried for EVERYTHING and not once was disciplined. (By that I dont mean punched in the face btw, I just mean told to behave).
He cried because he could only use his bike and not his scooter (sat on the pavement and screamed for 10 mins while we waited. Eventually parents gave in).
He cried because we crossed the road before him.
He cried because we were talking.
He cried because he couldn't get juice at the restaurant even though his parents were ordering him the juice.
He stood on tables, rode his scooter in the restaurant, shouted constantly.
He wouldn't speak to my son, only watch cartoons on his parents phone, wouldn't share the crayons to draw even though he didn't want to draw.
Kicked his brothers pram while he was sleeping. Etc etc... And all his parents were saying was "OH NO, if you do this again we are going to get cross!"

I just can't bare it. Its so horrible to sit through this, you can't have a conversation, my son isn't having fun, people at the restaurant are staring. I never want to hang out with my friends again. I love them but I hate their child, or more exactly I hate the way they educate him and turn him into complete dick head.

I have so many friends like them... so so many. Some worse, some less, but the result is the same: hanging out with them is painful. People who think you dont need to educate your children, that they have 'difficult' kid who cry a lot. They think its normal that if their child screams their name in the middle of a conversation, 10x times during 1 conversation, they should always stop and say yes darling instead of teaching them not to interrupt and wait while adults are talking.

I know some children are more difficult than others and that disorders exist. One of my son's is difficult and has a terrible character, still he doesn't behave like this. If I let him he would but I dont. I also have friends who have children with disorders, but in the cases Im talking about, its just complete lack of education.

Im loosing so many friends over this. I stop answering calls and make excuses not to hang out with them because I can't tell them how to educate their children. Who can tell a mother in the face that you dont like their child's behaviour? How awkward would that be?

We have made such a cut in our friends and now I am so picky. it sucks !
But why aren't people educating their children to behave?

Am I being unreasonable to feel this way or do other parents feel like this?

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MarmaladeShatkins · 26/10/2014 19:00

LaQueen, remember that time you smashed your DD's Nintendo DS because she accidentally ruined a bag of yours?

Where does that fit in to your icy, calculated parenting methods?

:)

NickiFury · 26/10/2014 19:00

Again though that's subjective isn't it? There's some that could tolerate it for ten minutes and some who couldn't tolerate it for ten seconds. Maybe we should all undertake to be more tolerant in general.

odoneel · 26/10/2014 19:00

I think all you people who think it's so easy to have very young children who are so well- behaved so write down your tips and email them off to the Institute of Psychiatry, MIT , etc. Seriously. There is loads of very good work being done by very experienced people ( lots of them have kids), and they seem to be finding it really hard to come up with suggestions to get toddlers to behave in the way you want them to ( some of these people don't even think that's a great idea!).

odoneel · 26/10/2014 19:01

Should, not so

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:02

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AnAwfullyGoodOxymoron · 26/10/2014 19:04

All I see on most of this thread is 'me me me me me'

It's fucking boring.

wooooosualsuspect · 26/10/2014 19:08

My adult children get on very well with me, so I must have done something right.

And I didn't give a toss what others thought of my parenting. I didn't parent to suit anyone else.

Pagwatch · 26/10/2014 19:10

I thought I was a fucking awesome parent. My first dc was bright, compliant and easy to parent. Then I got one that was really tricky and I had to step outside what I complacently thought worked on all children.
What I do now is try and figure out what works for them and love them. Different shit for different children. < shrugs>

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:10

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Ilovenicesoap · 26/10/2014 19:15

Other Peoples Children =OPC Wink

NickiFury · 26/10/2014 19:15

Not really LaQueen. It's more the studies and literature I have read on the impact of negative facial expressions on small children and how quickly they become tuned into that. If the person you love the most and who is supposed to protect you is looking at you like that on a regular basis just at a time when you are leaping forward developmentally and hyper sensitive to outside influences it can only to create wariness and mistrust.

wooooosualsuspect · 26/10/2014 19:15

Takes 'me' off thread.

Sorry to be a bore.

MoistSponge · 26/10/2014 19:17

Fear does not equal respect.

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:18

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LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:21

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LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:23

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NickiFury · 26/10/2014 19:23

Who knows? It's not something I have ever come across. Let me know if you find anything won't you?

MassaAttack · 26/10/2014 19:23

I imagine not being looked at at all is more damaging to a child's psyche than the occasional, disapproving glare.

TheFairyCaravan · 26/10/2014 19:26

How would you know a child was constantly badly behaved if you saw them in a restaurant? Oh, yes you wouldn't, would you? You wouldn't know if they were ill, tired, had LD or SN or they were just playing up!

If you felt the need to constantly confront them with negative facial expressions, it would make you look like a bit of a dick imo!

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:27

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Bambambini · 26/10/2014 19:28

We have eaten out a lot with our kids since they were young. Now at 12 and 9 they are a pleasure to eat out with and have been for a good few years - it is our favourite family time together. Sometimes problems arise when we change the dynamics and eat out in a larger group with other families or when it's not just the four of as which we are used to. I've seen them act differently as though the different dynamics mean the usual rules etc no longer hold.

I have a death stare but I don't think it's necessarily ideal (even if effective) and can instill a fear or anxiousness in children - yes, effective but ai'm not particularly proud of it. My mum had one which usually meant you were getting slapped when you got home.

MassaAttack · 26/10/2014 19:30

As a fellow dinner, you would know that they were fucking irritating for the duration of your lunch. Which is more than enough.

Ilovenicesoap · 26/10/2014 19:33

God what a load of shite !
Does it affect kittens if the mother looks at her kittens and gives them a sign when they misbehave ?
Well yes it does- it socialises them to correct behaviour.

I doubt very much that LAQ death stares her DC morning, noon and night but only when really needed.
They know what she means immediately as do my DC
"Pack it in "

No shouting, arm yanking, hissing or drama or confused DC who get in to trouble with friends, relatives or people who fed up with them.

KnittedJimmyBoos · 26/10/2014 19:33

I imagine not being looked at at all is more damaging to a child's psyche than the occasional, disapproving glare.

Wasnt there some tv program with test on this? the child who got no reaction from parents face but who was used to one got distressed where as neglected children dont care as they never have that face time and one to one expression?

I do the odd death stare! But as La Queen says as part of a loving healthy relationship I cannot see how it could possibly damage anyone?

LaQueenIsKickingThroughLeaves · 26/10/2014 19:35

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