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High earning partner leaving the country and family.

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finnmum · 15/10/2014 14:49

Hi all, so sorry this is long but I am desperate for your wisdom on the issue of separation from the partner. Recently separated, still good friends and wanting to do everything right for our two children aged 6 and 9. Last three years my partner was working in another town or even country and eventually he decided to separate for good. He is now living in an European country and has a new girlfriend which I am supportive of as I want him to be happy. He earns almost 600 pounds a day and in his field is expected to continue to earn that.

We were together for 15 years, I was there at the uni when he went to his first job interview and have followed his career first in Europe and the last ten years I have been a stay at home mum in London. I have a degree as we met at the uni and I did an MBA just before I fell pregnant with our first child and haven’t worked since other than doing volunteer work now that the children are at school.

It was always a joint decision for me to stay at home as my ex-partner’s work demanded that he was always flexible, ready to jump on board to a new project which might have been in a different region. I loved raising the children and taking care of our pets and the home. My ex-partner has never attended parent teacher meetings, helped with homework, taught the children a single life skill, never talked about their feelings or cooked dinner.

During the last years it has been very hard for me to keep the daddy alive in every day life with the children, talking about him and making sure we can catch him so the children can see him. Being happy-go-lucky kind of a person he could go for days without talking to the children however he loves them very much and when around is great with them.

Now comes my question.. a couple of months after leaving the country my ex-partner is saying he legally only needs to pay us the government minimum for child maintenance and I should get to work to “fend off myself”. As I am trying to come to terms with the loss and trying to keep everything together this sounds horrible. I attended the job centre and was literally laughed at with too many qualifications and not enough experience. I am willing to take a low paid job however the fact is that after 15 years of supporting him my ex-partner’s view on my input is very hurtful. I know legally he doesn’t have much obligations however how would other people morally see this?

I have downsized in every way I can and am happy to do so, but I am in London in a rented house with no assets and with two children and four pets and things can’t happen overnight. I know that he is a good man deep down, it is just that he has never valued the work of a stay-at-home parent as he prides his birth family as being professional parents as he was raised by nannies when his mum returned to work after four months. He even said to me to send the kids to him he can take care of themShock As everything has always been done for him he cannot imagine the work it takes and morally he does not see any obligation to support us much further. I have been taken to hospital with exhaustion twice in a few months and my blood pressure is alarmingly high. The children continue to be happy as for them it has always been only me in everyday life and I still try my best to shelter them from my feelings. I know somehow we will be ok, but am I the only one to whom my ex-partner’s view is shocking? Thank you for reading this x

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finnmum · 15/10/2014 14:51

My goodness that was long, sorry!

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 15/10/2014 14:52

Just to double check - were you married?

roundandround51 · 15/10/2014 14:54

Well I think you need legal advice regarding financial support

As you are now on your own with children to support I would also start looking at retraining and finding a way to support your family, it looks like you are going to have to

fusspot66 · 15/10/2014 14:55

Sad to say your exP's view is both despicable and predictable.
Sorry you've been so let down. You need to stop being nice about the little shit and get angry instead.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 15/10/2014 14:56

From your OP, he doesnt sound as great as you make out, from the sounds of it, he wouldnt be too bothered if he never saw them again and only wants to pay what the law says he has too.

ItIsntJustAPhase · 15/10/2014 14:58

Um, OP, he is a dickhead. Sad Angry

Happy go lucky? Shock Shock Shock

He has indeed buried his 'good man' deep down. Sad

If you post in relationships you will get good advice. But in the meantime get a solicitor.

Chunderella · 15/10/2014 14:59

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finnmum · 15/10/2014 15:00

No, we were not married.

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LaurieFairyCake · 15/10/2014 15:00

How are you currently supporting yourself?

You need to calm down as much as possible and stop facilitating anything for him that 'exhausts' you - you can't afford to be taken to hospital as it will just gain currency for him to get residency as you can't 'cope'.

You're in London, get a low skilled job and claim housing benefit and tax credits.

Stop communicating with him or wanting the best for him - he is NEVER going to see your point of view - stop trying to make him.

Sounds like he will pay the minimum which obviously is crap but you're going to have to manage

Kundry · 15/10/2014 15:01

You need to stop thinking your split is amicable. It isn't and you urgently need legal advice.

ItIsntJustAPhase · 15/10/2014 15:01

Also, don't worry too much about keeping daddy alive in every day life for the kids. I mean, be polite and nice and so on about him and mention him when it comes up naturally but by no means bend over backwards writing musical theatre about him. He should be worrying about that.

NewEraNewMindset · 15/10/2014 15:02

His attitude is lovely. I honestly don't know what to suggest as it sounds as though he is prepared to give you the minimum amount of maintenance as it seems as though you have no joint assets.

MexicanSpringtime · 15/10/2014 15:07

There are so many contradictions in your post, OP. He has never done anything with the children, but he is great with them, you both decided you should be a SAHP and yet he doesn't value SAHPs. He earns 600 pounds a day but you still live in rented accommodation.

You sound lovely but a lot in denial about his role in all this.

Leave it up to him to keep himself alive in his children's lives, if he doesn't do so, why should you, you are just setting them up for a fall.

Get financial and legal advice, I presume the CAB would be a good place to start

finnmum · 15/10/2014 15:09

We have never owned a property. The things have been financially tough lately despite of his salary as a few years ago he gambled all our savings and ran into debt in the stock market which he only told me after he couldn't hide it anymore. Now that I write this down it all sounds horrendous..

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Kundry · 15/10/2014 15:10

Also being great with kids for short supervised visits is not exactly impressive. I generally don't like children but can fake interest for a few hours. Kids are very bad judges of character as well. Big him up as daddy and as long as he isn't blatantly abusive, they will think the sun shines out of his arse.

Give up on keeping daddy alive, that's his responsibility

arethereanyleftatall · 15/10/2014 15:12

I think only one of you wants to do what's right for your dc. And it isn't him. Stop thinking he's a nice guy, nothing you've said suggests that.

Mini05 · 15/10/2014 15:13

The cheeky get!!!
It was ok while he wasn't with somebody else! But now he as met somebody new all of a sudden you should go out to work!! He's playing the send them to me thing, because he knows dam well you wouldn't.

Have you always rented your house?? With that amount of earnings you could of bought a house(I know there expensive in London, but so must renting)

So what exactly does he pay for? Just the children?

I would imagine on that amount of money you would get a decent child maintence (please don't tell me he is self employed?)

It's amazing how things change when another women comes on the scene!

IrianofWay · 15/10/2014 15:13

I am speechless! What a horrible attitude Shock

So sorry.

Greengrow · 15/10/2014 15:20

The advice to other posters is never move in unless you are married and if you aren't married make sure as many of the assets, bank accounts are in joint names so you own them jointly. Many higher earner spouses rightly choose not to marry (I would not marry again as I do not want my money shared with a spouse) to protect themselves. Plenty of women choose never to give up full time work to ensure they do not end up in this situation. most women know ion a simple web search that there is no spousal support if you aren't married and there is a massive difference as rightly there should be between a long term partner and a spouse.

So yes he is 100% correct he is only obliged to pay the child maintenance. Lessons for the future - never give up full time work as a woman and if you earn less than a spouse do not even move in until you have that wedding ring on your finger.

finnmum · 15/10/2014 15:20

MexicanSpringtime, I am sure you are right about me being in denial. As a woman whose father left for good when I was three years old I try to do all I can to make sure my children have theirs in their life. He is great with them in terms of laughter, hugs and kisses when he is around. That doesn't mean he is there when they are feeling down. Also, he knows how happy our kids are with having mum to pick them up from school but no, it doesn't mean he respects the person who stays at home. And he is dead against about buying in London.

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Chunderella · 15/10/2014 15:21

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Greengrow · 15/10/2014 15:21

ps.. £600 a day is not huge for many mumsnet posters by the way,. Go out there. Out earn him You will be no less bright than those of us who would not get out of bed for £600 a day. make it your task to earn double what he earns just to show him. Women can really do this. We do not have to live off male earnings.

sleepyhead · 15/10/2014 15:25

Do you know if there's any money? What he earns means nothing if he gambles it all, and if he's got form then I'd say there's a good chance that there's nothing but debt.

Do you have access to any joint accounts or savings? Anything you could sell?

KnittedJimmyChoos · 15/10/2014 15:25

can I ask why you didn't get married?

finnmum · 15/10/2014 15:30

Sleepyhead, there is debt you are right about that.

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