To ask how to pronounce croissant without sounding like a twat?

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So how do you do it?
I know how to say it properly as I speak reasonable French but I wonder if I sound like a pretentious twat. With close friends and family I get round it by doing it in an over exaggerated ironic way but how would I order one when out or how would I offer one to a casual acquaintance?
And as for Pain au Chocolat - I daren't even go there!!

Cwa-sont (really quiet 't' on the end)
Pan-oh-shokolah, or choco-pan as it's referred to in our house.
Chore-eet-zo I know it's chore-eetho but I feel like a twat talking with a lisp.
Chipotle - not a clue. Chip-ot-ul?!

Jackster- Bruschetta is regional.
Where I lived in Italy (and in standard italian) it is always brusketta with a hard 'k'. In Rome I think they pronounce it with a 'sh'

I always say "brusketta" but the same thing happened to me once with a waiter in an Italian correcting the me to say it was "brushetta". Then I talked to him in Italian and he didn't understand what I was saying. I have know lots of "Italian" waiters from Eastern Europe who don't actually speak Italian

Properly pretentious, moi! I can speak good French and use the British pronunciation of cwasson etc but I say "Mwet ay Shon-do(n)" instead of "Mo-at and Shon-don" when I order the champagne -which is all the fucking time obvs--

Also pie-Ella instead of pie-yay-ah.

sienna That's ace - so the waiters didn't actually speak italian ?

My son says crescent. I have no idea why but I have started saying it too as I also felt a it of a twat saying kwa-son. I think it might be an American thing though.

'cross ant' is really funny

i wish someone would ask me if i wanted one of those. must cheer up those on the wards.

I say cwass-ahn I think
pan-oh-shock-o-lah or something close

pie-ell-a

Kwa-saaaaaaaarn

Pain, as in pain au chocolat, is not pronounced 'pan' in French!

My Mum's pronunciation was corrected by a waiter in America once. She asked for a cwasson and the waiter looked down his nose at her and said "you mean a cross aunt". Was very funny. Mum's pronunciation probably wasn't proper either, but she was definitely closer than him.

The end of croissant isn't "on" either, but you can't write those sounds in an English equivalent because they don't exist.

Pah Oh shock oh lah is even worse.

Cwass-saw doesn't work either.

Ciabatta.

I have a friend who pronounces it Cee-a-batt-a.

How would you pronounce pain then in?

Iwantgin - No!! When I started talking Italian he looked so uncomfortable I felt really sorry for him but he'll think twice about correcting someone's pronunciation again which is a twatty thing to do anyway
I think it's quite common. I had a Polish friend who worked in an Italian restaurant where they told him to pretend to be Italian. They even called him an Italian name.
And 3 times I've been chatted up by guys (2 said they were Italian and the other said he was French) and then I try to switch languages and they can't even speak Italian/french.
It makes me a bit sad. What's wrong with being Polish, Romanian etc?

cwa-sonh
panh o shoc-o-la

You can't write the sound in English. There isn't an "n" sound at the end, but the "a" is sort of nasal and the closest English approximation is "pan" but as if you stop yourself before the "n" comes out.

Come to think of it, in some regional accents it sounds a lot like "pang".

i walk in to the coffee shop and ask for a latte scremoso al vitro. (lattay skRemoso al veetro)
i'm not italian, don't speak italian. i must win a twat award.

Chipotle is pronounced Chip-OAT-lay by the Americans I know.
Expat Brits in the US call it Chipottle, with a Yorkshire accent.

DS loves pain au chocolat, but age 3-4 had awful trouble saying it. He came up with chockolackapino instead....although how he thought that was easier to pronounce than pain au chocolat, I'll never know.

OP - I say cwasson. My late MIL said croysunt.

'pain'
and
'pain au chocolat'
have different pron of the 'pain'

There was a very flamboyant Italian waiter at our local restaurant, who forgot he was Italian one evening and announced our food in a broad Carlisle accent.

anyhow, that kind of is the point. the english version doesnt reproduce the nasal 'on' or 'an' sound but replaces it was the english, flatter, 'on' or 'ont', 'an' sounds

Glaswegian and I pronounce croissant as qwasong.

really, i say cwassonn because its as near as i can get to howits actually said, its how everyone in my family has always said it, and it's not too far off how my french dp says it.
It is understood by french and english alike, yet i don't judge people if theypronounce theRand the T in a more english way. Its still understood.

i cannot imagine that people honestly judge others on their pronunciation of various pastries.