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Original poster

to think no one should own land and ignore a sign saying private woods

604 replies

mls3 · 26/09/2014 09:33

Ok o will probably get flamed here.

But there is a badly managed woods near me with am old broken sign that say private woods. Aibu to collect a few broken branches for the wood burner? I know it is stealing, but this woods is overgrown and I'm thinking how unethical it is for anyone to own land.

Land used to all be free, until someone carved it all up to hoard for themselves. If land was still free now maybe we wouldn't have to all be working such stupid hours wasting our lives doing a job we don't like.

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itsbetterthanabox · 26/09/2014 13:06

So it's money. Dog doesn't get paid to kill like you do Hmm

Original poster
mls3 · 26/09/2014 13:06

History: Fail
Latin: Fail
English: Fail
Geography: Fail
Philosophy: Fail
Economics: Fail

What an unpleasant person you are, does being nasty make you feel good about yourself?

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MehsMum · 26/09/2014 13:06

Viva Grin

BaffledSomeMore · 26/09/2014 13:06

If brains were sticks there'd be some posters on here who needed to spend a lot more time trespassing in woods...

ArsenicFaceCream · 26/09/2014 13:06

itsbetter please please never step foot outside of a city.

TunipTheUnconquerable · 26/09/2014 13:06

' itsbetterthanabox Fri 26-Sep-14 13:01:15

It's only by following these stupid rules so we allow the 1% to own most of the country. It's ridiculous. Land should be for everyone. If you've got a house you've got enough.'

Please may I keep my garden as well?

EvansOvalPiesYumYum · 26/09/2014 13:07

It's only by following these stupid rules so we allow the 1% to own most of the country. It's ridiculous. Land should be for everyone. If you've got a house you've got enough

Confused No-one has "allowed" us to own our land. We, or our families have worked hard to pay for it. What a bizarre notion.
Farmers own more land because they produce food - it is their livelihood, but they've paid for that land, and pay for its upkeep and for the animals or produce grown on it. They haven't just taken it over, from anyone else who might have 'laid claim', willy-nilly.

Challenge: try and take over my garden. Come and help yourself to my vegetables or branches, without asking me first. Let's see where that gets you. Smile

Original poster
mls3 · 26/09/2014 13:07

It's only by following these stupid rules so we allow the 1% to own most of the country. It's ridiculous.

Exactly, funny thing is most people here agree with them, probably because they aspire to own vast swaves of the earths surface.

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/09/2014 13:08

Mls3 - if it is so unethical to own land, why do you own a house? As others have said, presumably it doesn't hover above the ground?

Basically this is about pure jealousy - you don't want people who are better off than you owning land. Your ownership of land is, of course, totally ethical.

What would you do if someone came into your garden and picked your flowers? Would that be OK? There are two options, when you answer that question - either Yes, I would be perfectly OK with people nicking stuff from my garden - and I would call that a bare-faced lie, or No, I would be pissed off if people nicked my flowers - in which case you are a hypocrite. Your choice!

ArsenicFaceCream · 26/09/2014 13:08

^set foot...

echt · 26/09/2014 13:09

That stuff about not owning under the topsoil is Australian, which is how the Aborigines get fucked over on mineral rights, and presently those who have gas on their land which can be commandeered by private companies.

That wood might have been left on purpose to preserve wildlife. This is common in Australia, and while it might not be a local law in the UK, you are taking from private land, so cannot assume the owners' intentions.

OP, you are so confused, saying it's stealing then going ahead and doing it. Just ask the owners. However I see that "fuck it" is your attitude, you'll just carry on stealing.

Nice one.

quietbatperson · 26/09/2014 13:09

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Spotsonmydots · 26/09/2014 13:10

I am assuming that you would not mind if I took something from your garden?

iK8 · 26/09/2014 13:10

You are part of the landowning elite you twit!

What do you think about that?

thicksolidtight · 26/09/2014 13:11

Why should land be for everyone? The costs are not.

Why would anybody think just a house was enough? How depressing to only work towards having 'enough'.

thicksolidtight · 26/09/2014 13:11

itsbetterthanabox - vegan are we?

ArsenicFaceCream · 26/09/2014 13:12

Exactly, funny thing is most people here agree with them, probably because they aspire to own vast swaves of the earths surface.

And it gets more bizarre Hmm

Not many people aspire to owning great swathes of anything OP. Swathe ownership is expensive and hard work as well as slightly selfish.

But we disagree with you, so we must be harbouring peculiar and grandiose secret ambitions. Obvious really Hmm

NecesitoDormir · 26/09/2014 13:13

I am simply astounded at the level of ignorance that seems to prevail on some threads. Not all threads just some.

Lack of knowledge, consideration and probably most of all reason. If you come onto AIBU and expect to be told 'of course you can steal' get on with it then you are wrong. Somebody somewhere owns that land and justifying theft from it using skewed economics is just daft.

If communism is so appealing to you then I suggest you look up living such a regime elsewhere.

Being nasty has not crossed my mind. I am simply pointing out the faults in your argument.

thicksolidtight · 26/09/2014 13:13

Aspirations are a bad thing ???

MehsMum · 26/09/2014 13:14

itsbetter, I assume you are a vegetarian or vegan who has no leather or any other variety of animal product in your house. If was a sheep, I'd rather be finished off by a quick efficient bullet than chased down a field by a large dog, have my wool ripped off and my flanks torn before the dog finally got me by the throat (graphic? Yup, I saw a sheep I'd wormed and tended dead after that had happened. It was 30 years ago but very vivid.)

I'd LOVE to own my own wood, btw. If it was big enough, I'd fence half of it for wildlife and put permissive paths through the other half. And if anyone planned to come and cut up a whole branch (which was what the OP mentioned nicking) I'd be livid. Picking up kindling or clipping a bit of Xmas holly, not so much. Not at all, in fact.

Original poster
mls3 · 26/09/2014 13:16

Basically this is about pure jealousy - you don't want people who are better off than you owning land. Your ownership of land is, of course, totally ethical.

When did I say ownership of any land is ethical? Hint I didn't so don't make stuff up to put in my mouth.

How is it about jealousy? Wanting land to be owned by the people and not by the 1%?

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thicksolidtight · 26/09/2014 13:17

Prove the 1% statistic please.

VSeth · 26/09/2014 13:18

Op why not track down the land owner and offer to buy the bit of land for a nominal fee? Then tidy it up to your standards and you will have your very own wood supply and join the Elitist 1%?

ArsenicFaceCream · 26/09/2014 13:18

Did you get the wood OP?

BaffledSomeMore · 26/09/2014 13:18

Meh you forgot to mention sheep losing their lambs through terror if a dog gets in amongst them. And the fact that it's going to be tricky to put a savaged sheep in the food chain.