To ask all Scottish MNers to join in and work together?

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No gloating.
No blaming.

Just appreciation for a huge turnout and a peaceful process.

You are witnessing the start of labour 's general election campaign.

Agree, I think we need to leave it a little longer and I said the same to Lattelover. But I think it's worth doing. I think at some point, hopefully soon, we need to stop seeing each other as "the other side" and start seeing each other as people who care about their country and how to make it better.

Deeedeee, I think I'm a bit more of a realist bordering on pessimist compared to your natural optimist. That's fine - we need both!

Agree deeedeee I voted yes to live in a fairer and more equal society, where everyone wins. And I hope that is what The45 will be all about, an antidote to austerity measures from Westminster that are actually political ideals being actioned.

I wonder if Gordon will stand for Holyrood? He could make a fantastic contribution I think.

and here's Ed for comparison - nicely timed BBC!

And I'm afraid you'll just have to put up with the 45% stuff. There's a lot of people who need it who are now having to put up with the repurcusions of your vote.

No. Why should we put up with the 45%? And I know several people who voted Yes to have a close No so they could force the devolution debate. They cannot have been the only ones.

People need to find a way to deal with it one way or another. It will take time. But it was a democratic vote, it is done and there needs to be a way to move on from this or it will never end.

I'm perfectly happy with the repercussions of my vote. The alternative should I have voted Yes would have been unthinkable.

I'm not sure you can say why people chose to vote No actually. All the people I know who voted No was because they wanted to remain part of the UK...
The turn out was 85% ??? That leaves another 15% of the voting population who was obviously not bothered to change the status quo (rightly or wrongly)

Bog Queen - I don't think that is true of Gordon particularly.

Ed is on now. God he is dull in comparison.

SC I have always changed channel whenever Ed came on but it's like preparing a fine glass of red with a Bacardi Breezer isn't it.

Does anybody know how to unfriend somebody on the FB app?

But isn't being defined in binary terms very negative? 'The 45' don't have exclusive concern over healthcare, job creation, etc. The thing that defines them is they voted yes. This is coal-raking divisiveness. Definitely not new positivity.

morris I think it is in settings

I doubt if it had been 45% No that Yes would tolerate the sort of comments being made here.

Yes would have claimed victory on 1 vote yet a victory of half a million votes is not being accepted.

sconequeen what you describe as particularly ominous and hardly helpful to help unite a community, surely.

Agree with deeedeee that it should be revisited again once it has all settled down. There's too much emotion flying around right now. And I for one am shattered from too many sleepless nights.

Very good comparison Livingzuid!

Addtobasket I think you are right - the 45 stuff feels divisive. Like only Yes voters care about austerity etc. We need something different to that, which engages all the people who voted no but still want changes too. Just because you didn't want independence does not mean you don't want change

Miliband - urgh. Just Urgh.

I think the biggest threat to devolution is not Westminster backing out of the deal but Scottish in-fighting.

There was this good article on the Guardian about why people voted the way they did. Us Nos were mainly decided from the outset.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/19/scottish-independence-opinion-polls-referendum-vote

Economics was really very unimportant. I believe that people control money , not that money controls people.

Words fail me- if even not knowing what form that money would be in wasn't enough to make you think it might not work out.

Rainbows and moonbeams really is very apt.

Morning! Just recovering from staying up all night to watch the Referendum.

FB is (as usual) full of bloody nonsense. Some of the more fervent Yes supporters are now obsessed, and I mean utterly obsessed that the vote was rigged by BBC media bias. Because obviously no No voters have the intelligence to think for themselves, and sit glued to the tv without the benefit of a remote control.

All the papers (except one) have obviously been biased too, and the only reliable sources of information are Facebook and Wings over Scotland (possibly the individual who has financially profited most from the Referendum and lets face it, he won't have to pay those higher Scottish taxes once they're introduced because he lives in Bath).

The sad thing is that these deluded, paranoid individuals are mainly holding down 50k plus per year jobs in middle management. Its sad for Scotland, I don't think this constant fighting and minor rioting is anything new, nor are these constant shouts of unfairness and bias - I think its probably being going on for centuries.

YY to the comparison between Ed Milliband and Gordon Brown.

merry I think you are absolutely right.

- at Latte

I still haven't watched that speech he did just before the vote either. I will try and watch it on FB now.

chelsy the amount of profit to have been made taken advantage of in a newly independent Scotland was quite frightening. Lady on the plane foresaw all these consultants coming in and charging extortionate amounts to start all the process off. She wouldn't have been wrong either, it is bad enough as it is at the moment. Your 50k friends have hardly got life bad at the moment have they!

Just because you didn't want independence does not mean you don't want change

Yes - wasn't much of the point of independence and devolution that Scotland's political character is different to the rest of the UK? - Not much use going forward if it is split.