To ask all Scottish MNers to join in and work together?

[SantanaLopez]

No gloating.
No blaming.

Just appreciation for a huge turnout and a peaceful process.

The decision was right, perhaps we can now got back to normal

Salmond was right to resign, he reminded me of Scargill, personal agenda and stuff the big bad English

Ah yes, normal. That lovely place where everyone has enough to eat and plenty of work. Where pensioners don't have to worry about how they'll pay their electricity bills. Where the NHS works efficiently and patients are treated like human beings.

And your reasons for supporting Salmond's resignation are puerile to say the least. "Stuff the big bad English"? What does that even mean?

I'm over 60, one of too few Yes voters in that group and I have never been so ashamed of my peers. What a bunch of cowards we've turned out to be. Some of us were too poor and too anxious to take the risk of independence - but others are ok financially; we have houses, we can bail out our own kids and help them through higher education, so we've abandoned those who can't. It's a disgrace.

Give it a break babyboomers.

Just looked at the Lord Ashcroft poll. I really don't think we should draw too much of a conclusion about the voting of 16-17 years old from it. They have a sample size of 14!

Well normal Yessers and Noers can unite in the opposition to bigots

Absolutely.

Bunch of idiots! What do they hope it will achieve

Stand well back, let the eejits fight amongst themselves and go home with sore faces.
Meanwhile back in the real world....

14! Surely they could have widened the sample fgs. What's even the point of that survey then.

Did anyone just see that cheesy montage to 'both sides of the tweed' on the One Show. Surely we can unite in hating that.

Yes, as has been reported. The rest of the under 55 polls are quite interesting though, save the narrow 18-25 margin. The over 55s had free University education, pensions, all the stuff that we are told is not a right now. I know it is supposedly mean to say selfish bastards so I wont say that. grin

And they call the young entitled

my dad is saying nationalism in Scotland is 'finished' and an opportunity like this won't happen again. This is why Salmond resigned.

The timing was perfect, he's talking of a 'perfect storm' that won't happen again, meaning a tory westminster government, an snp scottish government, a recession etc.

Salmond didn't have a mandate for what he promised, he couldn't guarantee us anything.

Our Canadian friends tell us the separatists were in the lead, only to narrowly lose. In their words 'the separatist movement has gone'.

It will be the same here.

Secret

No... did they use Dick Gaughan's song as I might explode?

I think he's right. What comes next is the big question.

The survey was a decent size overall - but personally I would not draw any conclusion from the 16-17 year olds. A sample of 14 just isn't adequate.

I think there is an element of truth to the "perfect storm" concept. How much lower would the vote have been if we currently had a labour government in WM?

"Give it a break babyboomers."

Why should she? She's as entitled to her views as you are, and so far as I can see, she's only posted once. Don't be so rude.

starwars yep the very one. Oh how the media love to portray Scotland as misty hills, mournful folk songs, whisky and shortbread. All cuddly and safe.

For many it wasn't about independence, it was/is some kind of class warfare.

eg: "Fucking Edinburgh snobs, fucking predictable" on my Facebook newsfeed

It really saddens me the number of people who couldn't see what independence would really mean.

Fortunately the majority could.

Babyboomers You are spot on.

OK Stat but have a look at the other figures. Only 18-25 group was a No (52-48). It's not good. !4 as a sample for the 16/17 is not good of course. I am accepting that Yes lost. TBH I always thought they would and said so. But it is a a bit galling that it's the babyboomers who are calling the shots (I'm being nice)

I disagree Babyboomers and I say this as a Yes Voter and proud at that.

We live in a democracy and you can't call people names just because you don't agree.

It was risky. Some wanted to take the risk, some didn't.

Both were within their rights to do so. Each person had their own individual reasons for making their choice. Both with repercussions for the other side.

You are entitled to think what you want but you don't have the right to tell someone how to think or what to believe.

If I looked outside and there was rain falling and the ground was wet, there's no way anyone could convince me that it wasn't raining. It's the same for the Ves/No vote. You can't make people feel what they don't get in their head.

I'm gutted it wasn't yes. Gutted!But I had my choice and everyone else had theirs. Democracy.

I know Frankie. I don't think it will stop anytime soon either. Politics moves on, but 'normal' people get left to pick up the pieces.

Baby boomers, yes. You're describing my dad in fact!

I was only commenting on the 16-17 as I've seen a lot of people commenting on it, and it also looked odd to me that there was such a jump between the 16-17 and the 18-24 which looked, to my eyes, kind of odd. In the main summary they've merged it in to a 16-24 category which was 49% no overall.

Are the orange order burning saltires in George square?

I've decamped to England temporarily - something came up on dh Facebook feed

yes they are, a fire engine was called apparently.

Think it might be a mixture of bnp and orange shite