To ask all Scottish MNers to join in and work together?

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No gloating.
No blaming.

Just appreciation for a huge turnout and a peaceful process.

That timetable specifically states second reading after a general election. Doesn't sound like anyone is reneging on anything.

sc that's just wrong. In some ways the votes of many older people could be regarded as a bit em 'purer' because their votes have been arrived at through life experience, without being contaminated by the vagaries of social media. I'm maybe not saying this clearly, but the older people I know had their own thoughts and arguments, not just stuff endlessly copied, pasted or parroted from t'internet.

altinkum that is unacceptable.

altinkum

I like your curtains!

People need to stop getting so defensive about accusations of people voting No through fear and because of the vow. Obviously, most No voters were No voters way before the vow - the point is, the vote appeared to swing to No after the vow, indicating that some people were swayed - maybe enough to sway the referendum. As for not being afraid - this is hard to judge, actually. Most people who vote No say it was because the economics didn't add up, and it's pretty hard to be sure that the media cover of the economic facts didn't impact on that. Everyone is influenced by what they read - of course they are!

Similarly, it's stupid to say the 65+ voted No because they don't have access to social media - there will be lots of reasons, an instinctive feeling that they don't want the country they've lived in for 6+ decades to change being one - but of course the fact that this age range, more than any other, had high exposure to pro-union media and very little exposure to pro-independence media had an impact. Or are people arguing that the media has no ability to influence people's ideas?!

I should be happy Salmond's resigning but it means we'll get Sturgeon who's almost as bad.

Salmond still trying to stir things though.

So true WildThrong. Influenced, not merely by pension worries, but decades of life experience and less likely to be seduced by the banalities of social media.

That's awful altinkum.

On the wine too.

iismum, it's the implication (or often downright explicit statement) the No voters would have been Yes voters if only they would have read the right material. Where right = Yes propaganda such as Wings. I did shitloads of research, and it was that research that made me such a definite no. Being told I only voted no because I didn't understand the issue/research/know the facts is downright insulting

Is anybody truly enjoying working together for the toffs in power to get richer? C'mon, seriously?

grimble I'm not sure if I detect sarcasm?

Everyone has their own influences as to how they vote, if older people's influences are their pensions, which they have paid for all their lives, then that's fine by me.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277

What is going on in George Square?

Have just received an email from BT, an extract of which reads:

The people of Scotland have spoken in overwhelming numbers. We have chosen unity. Unity over division and positive change for the future of our country [....]

But as we celebrate, let us also listen. [...] Every political party must listen to their cry for change, which could be echoed in every part of our United Kingdom but had this opportunity to express itself in Scotland.

I don't want toffs to get richer, I want to find common ground with the majority of Scotland to change the way we govern ourselves and interact with parliament. And for us all to stay engaged.

My DS was in town today and said there was a horrible atmosphere at the square. I really hope it calms down.

I hope it doesn't kick off

It would be a great shame if it all kicked off...

Ach, no-one "wants toffs to get richer"
I don't think I saw either of the sides with that option on their ticket

No, that didn't seem to be on the ballot

Neither was there a stop-kicking-kittens option

Well, good luck with that. Labour, libDem, Tory all liars. They will continue lying and being self-serving cunts. And soon enough, we will have Boris and Nigel running things.

OH NO! This is what I really didn't want to happen. Bloody hell! The decision has been made. Although I said people need a wee bit of time to process it- I meant in the house, with a bottle of wine. NOT in protest in George Square. Fucking idiots, both sides.
I say this as a Yes Voter. Looking for trouble- that's madness!

And of course Salmond and Sturgeon and the like are absolute angels, yes?