To ask all Scottish MNers to join in and work together?

[SantanaLopez]

No gloating.
No blaming.

Just appreciation for a huge turnout and a peaceful process.

picky*

Hey ladies.

This post says what I don't have the words to say:

bellacaledonia.org.uk/2014/09/19/we-tried-our-best/

I think the sentiment at the end about being aware that people want to reach out to each other is very good, but the sentence that resounded most for me right now is this:

"The professional commentators probably don’t realise just how deep nor how wide this hurt runs."

Yes campaigners right now are grieving for the failure of something that, as Nicola Sturgeon put it, we have put our hearts and souls into for weeks, months, and even years. I do want to reach out, and I do want to help make Scotland and the wider UK a better place. But right now, every slightly carelessly-written facebook status about the result just cuts like a knife. I know I need a bit of time before that stops being the case.

clarabum thank you for clarifying I just wasn't sure whether you were referring to me or not.

It was the language more than anything I had to sit around and listen to as a lone No in the office at that time, followed by an exceedingly pointed walk off to lunch. Couldn't give a monkeys about the lunch and as said, wouldn't want to listen to yes talk anyway, but it is the pointed not asking because they knew I was a no. And I had to listen to pretty much everyone talking about it and how awful it is and I can't say how pleased I am we get to stay. I did feel very cut off. It's just an example of how divided people have become. But we all have to work together in the end. So how do you overcome it? This has really upset me. All because I voted no.

I did forget to say this but we are all not supposed to discuss it at work anyway. I feel that if you feel you can't behave professionaly because you were upset then perhaps a break at home would be better. I know I would not have been able to speak to a soul if it had been a Yes and wouldn't have come in.

SURELY it will be Sturgeon. She is bloody good. And I say that as someone who, if I had a vote, would have voted a resounding no.

spirited he would say that wouldn't he? Stirring the pot till the bitter end. Good riddance. Perhaps Sturgeon might be an improvement.

I am ridiculously happy at the result.

I voted no, hoped for no and skipped all the way to work at 6am this morning knowing that the no campaign had it in the bag.

I am deliberately avoiding all social media tonight having seen some very vicious comments from the Yes side in response to the result. I wish it wasn't the case, but sadly politics has a way of getting beneath people's skin in the worst way. I'll ride it out and let it pass. I haven't gloated, I haven't really spoken to anyone about the result for fear of arguments erupting and I have made a point of remaining very quiet on the subject altogether over the past few months to keep the peace.

Thrilled to have just heard the news that Alex Salmond is resigning. I have never liked the man.

I feel like Christmas came early and there's a bottle on wine chilling in the fridge as I type. It has been a very good day in our house and the sense of relief I feel is similar to that of an adrenaline rush

"The professional commentators probably don’t realise just how deep nor how wide this hurt runs."

Absolutely and I think those who voted 'No' can totally understand how people feel too. If things had gone the other way I would have felt gutted too.

However, the post you linked to talks about teachers crying at school in front of the children. Seriously, they really need to be more professional. They are there to do their job. The children would have found that kind of behaviour really confusing and frightening. If the teachers couldn't have contained their emotions they shouldn't have been there.

I think Alex Salmond has done the right thing by deciding to stand down. I think it shows that he puts Scotland above his own desire for power or influence? I don't know.

David Cameron, in a phone conversation today, has refused to commit to a second reading in Westminster of a bill for more powers for Scotland by 27 March 2015 – a promise that was made by Gordon Brown during the campaign.
Miliband has also come out on the BBC saying he wont agree to any promises the PM makes.

So, unsurprisingly, the better together lot lied. Their promises didn't even hold good for 24hrs.

Is this really what you wanted you people who voted no? TO be made fools off? Cause if it was, you have succeeded in making our beautiful country look like idiots who fall for any old Westminster claptrap.

I bet on this happening! Thanks Alex.

VinoTime

I'm sorry people have been being vicious on facebook. It doesn't excuse the behaviour at all but I think to some extent the tone is set by No voters being magnanimous in victory (as the vast majority are). I think it's hard to be gracious in defeat when some people's happiness in the result leads them to say insensitive things. (E.g. I have 'No' friends posting about a victory over nasty nationalism, a relief that recklessness didn't hold true etc -- which all feels very personal and pointed right now, and makes me want to bite if I had an ounce of energy or spirit left at this moment).

I don't know if that makes sense. I haven't slept much.

But fflada
You are assuming the 'vow' was what swung it. I can only speak for myself and some people in RL, but we were No a long time before they came along.
The 65+ who voted resoundingly No, many if them voted postally ages ago so it made no difference to them either.

WildThrong
I am assuming that people like their politicians to tell the truth. I assume they feel upset and betrayed when lied to.

Even the over 65's must like to be told the truth.

Surely if they voted no did so believing that their politicians in Westminster are accountable to the people of Scotland? In less than 24hrs team Westminster have shown themselves to be opportunistic liars who can do what they like with no comeback.

Its a sad day and we can do nothing about it.

Gordon Brown made promises that even at the time were acknowledged as not his to make.
Ed Milliband: was he there during the campaign? I don't recall hearing him speak.(seriously)
Glad Salmond has gone; he was personally responsible for so much of the orchestrated nastiness.
Now perhaps Scotland can get back to its normal, decent self and resist those trying to turn it into Ireland.

I haven't seen the news so will catch up, but just to echo what Wild said - I was a no without any additional powers. However if they have been reneged on I am fuming.

Momentous 48hours for Scotland either way. What next?

You actually had the chance to get away from all the lies and bull of wm! What were you thinking?!

I'm jealous.

Can we work on sorting out wm together now?

I agree Statistically, The point is that David Cameron and Miliband said they would do something, and then changed their minds because actually they had no intention in the first place.
Gordon Brown was empowered by the better together lot to make promises on their collective behalf.

Promises we cant hold them too now we have a no vote. Welcome to Scotland-shire, a county of England.

I would have been a no voter.
However [while having only picked up Milliband facts here] am furious with him. Bloody hell they need to sort this out and not behave shabbily the day after the referendum.
Cameron's speech was good this morning but he need to have back up...

Oh cross with Cameron too!!

(that's a screen grab from the guardian website)

If they have been renegaded on I will be so angry.

I didn't vote no based on that, but that's not the point. Not surprised about Salmond resigning and I think Cameron should follow suit.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29252899

Just reading this timetable...

From the Guardian earlier:

First minister Alex Salmond is due to give a press conference in around 15 minutes’ time. We won’t have a Guardian reporter there, I’m afraid – our Scottish correspondent, Severin Carrell, tells me we have declined the place after the Scottish government insisted it would choose which reporter we could send. I’ll cover it from the TV news, should the cameras be on the invitation list.

Its a bit odd... why does the Scottish Government/Alex Salmond think they can hand-pick which journalists a media outlet is allowed to send, or which papers are allowed at all... is this normal?

Was Nick Robinson invited, I doubt he's on Alex's Christmas Card list?