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To ask all Scottish MNers to join in and work together?

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SantanaLopez · 19/09/2014 06:20

No gloating.
No blaming.

Just appreciation for a huge turnout and a peaceful process.

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TessOfTheFurbyvilles · 19/09/2014 14:55

I don't think it's helpful for anyone to make assumptions about why people voted the way they did.

You can only assume that some people voted no out of fear, but you don't know that for sure, unless someone chooses to share their reason for voting.

AMumInScotland · 19/09/2014 14:55

Annunziata Do you respond that way after General Elections too, if people are 'moaning and grumpy' at the prospect of years of a government they didn't want?

Give us a day to be unhappy before we stick determined smiles back onto our faces and try to find ways of moving forwards in a situation we really, really, hoped was going to change.

Annunziata · 19/09/2014 14:59

Of course it is okay to be disappointed, but the reactions on this site are terrible.

Blaming no voters, saying that there will be suicides, humiliating, we've all let our children down.

It's not acceptable.

Tinkerball · 19/09/2014 15:00

Where has this been said, I certainly haven't said anything of the sort.

Annunziata · 19/09/2014 15:01

On the 'happy thread' in chat.

Altinkum · 19/09/2014 15:02

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AMumInScotland · 19/09/2014 15:03

Well, a few people are always a bit dramatic in how they express themselves. Take it as a sign of how upset and unhappy they are. If it had gone the other way, the reactions would have been at least as bad, with people prophesying doom and gloom, plagues of locusts, etc.

Oh wait, that was what they were doing before the referendum...

Annunziata · 19/09/2014 15:04

Do you think you're being smart? It's not working.

Hysterics and drama just make you look like a sore loser.

indyandlara · 19/09/2014 15:04

I do feel we have let our children down. I feel that strongly however I accept. others don't feel the same way. I don't think that is a terrible reaction. Sorry. I believe we had a huge opportunity to shape our own future and it was blown. Lots of reasons for that happening and for me, some of the blame falls at the Yes door as the economic argument just wasn't strong enough.

livingzuid · 19/09/2014 15:06

I have explained why it has bothered me and don't need to be told about the group dynamics about going out to lunch. As I have said, if that was all it was I would not care.

chocoluvva · 19/09/2014 15:07

Found you at last Smile - think I've missed an entire indyref thread.

Massive relief in the choco tip household. I am very mindful of the close result though. I feel very sorry for those yes voters who had thought carefully about their decision and felt strongly about it. The yes voter woman in Edinburgh who was interviewed was so upset Sad It must be very disappointing to have been so close.

A great result for mumsnet - a webchat with the first minister and the ex-chancellor of the exchequer - wow.

And the information I've learned, the (usually) high quality of debate and discussion - three cheers for MN. Politicians on all sides - take note!

Earth -so sorry to hear about your health. Flowers

I am resolved to continue to be more 'engaged' from now on. The shocking attempts to get the 'right' result through manipulation and deliberate obfuscation (I sound like George Galloway Grin but I don't want to be needlessly confrontational) have been an eye-opener and a lesson in the importance of checking the facts (as far as possible).

indyandlara · 19/09/2014 15:09

In your original post you said that they all went without you which I thought was pretty awful. However you then said others weren't there which was quite different.

livingzuid · 19/09/2014 15:10

choco you are very right on the facts.

EarthWindFire · 19/09/2014 15:12

Well, a few people are always a bit dramatic in how they express themselves. Take it as a sign of how upset and unhappy they are.

No matter how upset people are some of the things that have been said are beyond excusable

livingzuid · 19/09/2014 15:14

They all did go without me. I was the only one there at the time they went. And it felt fucking shit given all I had to listen to today.

God do I have to provide a breakdown of my day and everyone else's before I post something? This is beyond pedantic.

EarthWindFire · 19/09/2014 15:17

Hi chocco Thanks

Tinkerball · 19/09/2014 15:20

Well I can only imagine if the vote had been the other way round what would have been said. It was bad enough before about all the predictions of riots at the polling stations not forgetting the post which stated an independent Scotland would be like the film 28 days later!

livingzuid · 19/09/2014 15:25

tinkerball I don't think the press have been at all helpful in this process. Quite rabid in fact regardless of which side you were on.

WildThrong · 19/09/2014 15:56

livingz don't let them get you down.
It's nearly the weekend so you can chill out with your family Flowers

SlicedAndDiced · 19/09/2014 16:05

Yes there is some real anti Scottish crap being thrown about!

I think I could sum up my facebook like this.

No voters are rich old cowards that value their finances above their country and children. Because of you Scotland is a laughing stock and can never be proud of itself again.

Yes voters are bitter knuckle dragging thugs who are so thick they are unable to comprehend a simple maths lesson and should immediately get over defeat.

No that it matters whether you are a yes or no voter....the English all hate you anyway. You belong to England and are now it's no.1 bitch who should just bend over and shut up because you love it.

Hmm I despair, I really do. It looks like you can't win Scotland.

Spiritedwolf · 19/09/2014 16:10

Alex Salmond standing down. BBC 1

Clarabum · 19/09/2014 16:12

Living I'm sorry that you were left out, I was just trying to clarify earlier as you said that they normally are cliquey anyway so I wasn't sure if you could really justify reporting. If you felt excluded then of course you should report them. No now should have to put up with that.

Of course we will move on as a nation, I'm very glad people are happy and relieved but people that are have invested in this process for the past two years, have campaigned in their free time are entitled to have a least a day to be sad that it hasn't worked out. We should be allowed to say that we're sad without a big chorus of "Cheer Up Charlie" from some posters.

I've tried to stay clear of these indyref threads as I've felt as soon as I posted anything,i've been shot down with negativity. Here, I thought, I was asked for opinions on how I was feeling and I am being shot down AGAIN for being pissed off at the outcome?

I'm not quite sure what more people want me to say? For me to say that i'm wrong to believe in something. For me to say "aye okay, you were right". Some real insensitivity here from a few posters.

I wasn't but a few weeks ago everyone had their hands in the air at the thought of Yes winning.Are you trying to say that if that had been the case then No voters would have shrugged it off and said "Oh Well!" after 10 hours of knowing the decision?

Altinkum · 19/09/2014 16:18

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Spiritedwolf · 19/09/2014 16:20

nudges thread er... no one else watching the latest development? Alex Salmond is standing down and accusing David Cameron of reneging on promises (I don't know if there was a news story about that I came in just after Salmond started.

DH says he was very pciking about the press and individual journalists allowed into the press conference - assume that's what he's heard on twitter.

SquirrelledAway · 19/09/2014 16:20

Wonder if Nicola Sturgeon will step up as SNP leader?