to feel happy and excited about voting YES!

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I am just back from the polling booth and can say that I have never felt so positive about voting. The feeling that my vote is actually counting, rather than being swalowed up as is the case with Westminster voting, is also fantastic.

IMO a yes vote will reinvigorate the whole of Britain and, amongst other things, allow Scotland and England build better relations as equal but interdependent neighbours and allies.

kidlorne you sure as hell don't speak for me when you use the royal we in your posts. One isolated incident of bad behaviour does not justify accusing millions of other people of doing the same thing. But in all fairness, that's what it is. A big middle fingered salute to Westminster from Scotland, the half that voted Yes, is how it will be perceived and people will respond accordingly. As in later, close the door behind you.

Why is it so hard to see that? I don't understand what could ever possess someone to vote yes. All I have seen has sounded like drivel or a badly written Mills and Boon novel.

If a Yes vote prevails which I don't think it will.

Voted NO with extreme pride.

Fontella didn't say your reasons for voting weren't acceptable to her Kid. She explained why she doesn't vote Yes - that's all.

mrsruffalo Andy Murray had a deeply traumatic event from his childhood thrown back in his face - I'm fairly shocked you don't think it's that bad.

I know personally that at least one of the Dunblane families involved was very distressed at the comment and that their sorrow was being used for political point scoring.

It was also a potentially criminal tweet.

This is the problem for me with it.

Things like make a fairer Scotland

Some things are worth more than money

Doing it for future if children

Just how?

These are all just sound bites to me.

Then there is the currency. Huge.

I just couldn't vote yes.

What's the point? I've made my mind up. I don't owe you an explanation. It's not like people haven't spent the last 2 years going around the same arguments again. and again. and again. People asked me why I might be irritated by what I have experienced, and I've answered.

Then I am doubly surprised at your sweeping generalisations. You got shouted at in the street in England too? Because frankly I would be amazed to hear that. But then depends where you went, We are all quite different. Unlike the Scots of course, who you tell us, are all the same.

Fontella he doesn't have a vote but he does own a substantial business here so he does have a legitimate reason for comment.

Kid, nobody's saying "fuck off". But then, that's the current problem - too many people reading only what they want to read and interpreting only how they want to interpret.

How can you have a debate with no explanation?

Are you Salmond?

I don't know what happened to Andy Murray but having a guess based on that, really shit.

Mind there are knobs like that around, in a work training thing once someone made a nasty comment about the welsh and Aberfan.

What is going on with social media is unacceptable. But that doesn't alter the fact that Andy Murray put a comment out there that we can disagree with. Safe with his millions, like all those businessmen and celebrities who have urged a Yes vote. They will not be the ones suffering.

And the questions put to the SNP haven't been answered. Again, and again, and again.

If any other Govt said to us workers that they were going make massive changes to our pensions but they couldn't tell us what these changes would mean for us in pounds and pence then Unison would have us all out on strike by the end of the working day (and I would be at the front of the line). Quite why so many people are voting for such massive unknowns I cannot fathom.

Don't worry Kid. My DH and I visited a very famous attraction in Edinburgh over ten years ago with my SIL who lives in the city (DH is a Scot but we live in England and, at the time, lived in London). My SIL said to the man on the ticket desk, like many people who live near an attraction, she had never been to see it but her brother, pointing to DH was up from London's so we were taking visit. The man looked at DH and said "Why would you want to live among the English when you could live up here amongst your own kind (I kid you not)and especially in a shit hole like London". At which point DH pointed to me and said " I married a local..." Give the man his due he did blush and mumble something which could have been an apology.

It was a nasty and unnecessary thing to say to me then and it was nasty and unnecessary to say on your visit. We aren't all like that. Hope you visit again soon, regardless of the outcome today.

Of course that's terrible re Andy Murray, but he will be okay, I'm sure. Will he move back to Scotland if they gain independence? I would hope so, that is the best way to show support.

harold

You just summed up the Yes campaign in one observation. Shout very loud if someone disagrees, shout even louder if it is factual information. He has been saving up all his hot air for years for this one campaign.

To poster upthread... pre 1922 your country was united kingdom of britain and ireland. Following war of independemce and then negotiations you became the uk of britain and n.i.

Blackbird. People are saying fuck off. Like I said, once to my face. That's the truth of it. It's shameful on both sides.

And I'm sorry if people thought I was speaking for 4 odd million scots. That was not my intent.

Harold I'm speechless.

And yes there are awful hiding behind their computers everywhere and I know the responsible party is in no way representative of the majority opinion I just wanted to challenge the view that what was said to Andy Murray wasn't that bad.

Absolutely not. I think each nation has it's share of colossal bellends and it unacceptable no matter which way the insult is based.

In fairness the man didn't know I was English but, as an employee in a tourist attraction you would have thought he'd have kept his views to himself as a fair amount of people in there had English accents (before someone points out my story was slightly different to Kid's)

Oh, I'm terribly sorry Fontella, that my reasons for voting are not acceptable to you. My apologies

Your reasons for voting are your reasons. It's not a case of them being 'acceptable' to me or not. My problem with the cause for separation is that I have yet to come across a 'yes' voter who does anything other that trot out the usual stock phrases straight out of Indy Central - Westminster, Norway, Scaremongering, Freedom, Bias, One of the Richest Countries in the World, Oil' most of the 'arguments' are framed about that.

Any questions on the logistics and economics are never answered, the fundamential flaws in this wondrous plan of Mr Salmond's highlighted from numerous sources, internationally and indeed from inside Scotland itself - your own economists and academics .. are simply ignored, as indeed you, yourself are doing now.

I think the campaign has been conducted in an appalling way. Some people, on both sides, have behaved appallingly and for the absolute first time in my 47 years I have had times when I have felt embarrassed to be a Scot.

I think this referendum has been damaging to the country already with more bad feeling than I have ever encountered and it makes me feel devastated. Scotland is a great country and people should vote the way they see fit, no argument there at all, what I really can't stand is all the talk as if it's all about bagpipes and shortbread and loving Rabbie Burns. It's got fuck all to do with that and I just hope that people, whichever way they vote, vote with their heads and not their hearts.

Salmond had a visible sweat on last time I saw him being questioned on the currency.

mrsruffalo Andy Murray can live Anywhere he chooses, there are Scots all over the world.

However his close family still live in the Dunblane area and as I said before he is a business owner so it's not like he won't be impacted by the result.

Fontella - you forgot to include 'bullying' and 'bluffing' in that list from Indy Central. Oh, and Team Scotland.

I haven't ignored them. I've, truthfully, agonized over my vote. I know it's a huge risk. I would, however, rather vote for the chance of something better than the fear that it won't work. That's my view. Personally, I think an independent Scotland will have a very difficult 5-10 years and then we'll come through.