to feel happy and excited about voting YES!

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I am just back from the polling booth and can say that I have never felt so positive about voting. The feeling that my vote is actually counting, rather than being swalowed up as is the case with Westminster voting, is also fantastic.

IMO a yes vote will reinvigorate the whole of Britain and, amongst other things, allow Scotland and England build better relations as equal but interdependent neighbours and allies.

Also slightly confused about the no nukes thing. I appreciate people might not want weapons in their country but does it really make a difference if they're a stones throw away across the border?

I'm only saying what Salmond has said, not what will happen

which actually shows you how deluded the man is.

I think Salmond is slightly over reaching himself.

If it's a yes vote the English establishment will do absolutely everything In Their power to make it sticky for Scotland.

Human nature.

On the fence here because either way both Salmond and Cameron will have egg on their faces it's just a case of who is first.

Er, sorry, but you do sound anti English. There was a complete lack of support for UKIP in London. The population of London, for example, is bigger than that of Scotland, and more people in London support many of the policies you mention.
A record number of people in London also use foodbanks and are living in poverty. It's not all about elitism.
Using what was voted for politically to make assumptions about a nations character is shaky imo. You can vote for all of those things and have completely different personalities/characteristics.

Why do you know all the English mrsruffallo? Should I name them?

Corkgirl your sweeping generalisations about people are laughable. So we'll lump the English and Welsh together and because you think the Scots are different - they'll be allright!

Do your 'different' Scots include the almost 1 million of them who live in England, or do they stop being 'different' when they move south of border? Or the English who live in Scotland, or the Irish who live in England or Wales, or the Welsh who live in England or Scotland - not to mention all the other peoples who live among us of from the Caribbean, Africa, Eastern and western Europe and all parts of the globe. .. you see where this is going?

Sweeping generalisations and collective nouns about millions and millions of people, who are made up of allsorts, and using that as a basis to give your approval to the breaking up the UK is nothing short of ridiculous. A farmer in the Highlands is going to have more in common with a farmer in West Wales than he is with a civil servant in Edinburgh. A student in Perth is going to have more in Common with a student in Plymouth than he is with a shopkeeper in Dundee.

The USA made up of hundreds of nationalities, races, colours and creeds and yet .. they are all Americans. They all live side by side and are proud to be American. Several American states are larger than entire European countries. The entire British Isles (Eire included) would fit comfortably inside several of them. We are tiny. Britain is a tiny island, and we are dividing it in half, splitting it up because of the demands of a small group of Scottish nationalists.

But that's ok with you - because on this trip of yours around Britain you concluded that the Scottish were different.

I think if the Yes vote prevails the rUK electorate will punish politicians who don't show that they are willing to be tough in protecting rUK's interests during the separation negotiations. There's a general election coming up. Don't expect everything to be kittens and puppies and LOL interdependence.

Not the English establishment but they will have a duty to protect the interests of rUK including Ireland and wales as much as possible. Of course they do. So it's going to be some negotiations I would think.

I'm a bit offended that because UKIP has no support in Scotland, that makes The English UKIP supporters?? It had very little support in my corner of the UK which is also 80 percent labour.

I want us all to stay together. I love Scotland, I love the Scottish people and I like the UK being one nation. I think it is very wrong that so few people have a say in something that is going to affect every single one of us.

I have heard of some shocking behaviour by some people who want Scotland to be independent and are voting YES. I haven't heard anything of the NO campaigners, but I don't doubt this happened too.

There are so many questions that haven't been answered yet. What will happen to the members of the British Armed Forces who are based in Scotland post-independence? What will happen to the Scottish in the Armed Forces? I know they will have their own, but I am pretty sure there are more serving than the numbers stated. Does that mean redundancies? Only the rumours flying round the Armed Forces is a 2 rank promotion and a substantial pay rise post-independence.

Has Alex Salmond been hiding money under his mattress or something? He seems to be promising an awful lot!

It's sad we can't all just be friiiiieeeenndds

Every serving private soldier immediately becomes a sergeant in Salmond's blue and white army? LOLOLOL.

No, it's not anti-english, just like it would not be anti-english if people in london said they were fed up with their opinions being disregarded.

I don't hate the English. Of course not. I just want a chance for Scotland to be the country Scottish people want it to be, and not the one that suits the interests of Westminster. I don't think there is anything wrong with that at all. I'm not naive. I don't think it will be easy, but maybe it would be nice for more people to say "good luck" rather than "fuck off then". Just a thought.

HAHAHAHA amazing WRONG THREAD I was supposed to put that on the light hearted one.

kidlorne perhaps if it wouldn't have such a negative impact on those of is in rUK but it will cause massive economic problems.

You want it to be a Scotland about 50% roughly of people living I. Scotland want it to be.

I'm am not trying to be arsey but you don't speak for the nation, jut yourself.

grovel DS1 is doing his Phase 1 training atm. A Scottish corporal was telling his Scottish mates that they must vote YES because they'd get a 2 rank promotion and a substantial pay rise!

After he went DS1, who is quite intelligent and politically aware, told them to think about it, because no-one knows who is going to have a job in the Scottish Army, anyhow!

harold I was thinking about this, if the vote is very very close what happens to the people who wanted the opposite of what happens?

That's what's depressing me, gingee. I can't bear the prospect of the triumphalism of either side.

That's outrageous, Fairy.

My understanding is that most Scottish Armed Forces personnel want to stay in the British army, Royal Navy, RAF.

That's how democracy works Harold, unless you are advocating that any election requires a 100% majority. One person, one vote and all that. How else should such a thing be decided?

No one has said 'fuck off'. They have said they will continue to support British produce by putting their money where their mouth is. You say you 'sick of all the bile thrown at scots these last couple of weeks'. Maybe the English posters are sick of the nasty comments they've had to endure too (which, let's face it, are significantly more than vice versa).
On top of this, the message that has been given is mostly 'please don't go' but apparently our opinions aren't welcome.
But good luck with your Scottish utopia.

BTW kid, if you think and feel the same I expect a landslide.

harold I was thinking about this, if the vote is very very close what happens to the people who wanted the opposite of what happens?

I would predict loads of recounts, even reruns, lawyers and courts (which courts?) involved.

Plenty of people have said fuck off, online on MN and elsewhere. They've said it in the media, on the streets, once to my face and to, for example, Andy Murray, for daring to state his opinion. You simply cannot deny that there has been plenty of nastiness coming from south of the border. I won't deny that it has happened in Scotland too, however, and that is equally as disgraceful.

A message of "please don't go" is, of course, fine. I've seen much less of that than I have of the other one, though, to be perfectly honest.