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To ask what are your opinions on social cocaine use?

535 replies

sshroom · 16/09/2014 13:29

I am finding that it is becoming more acceptable to use cocaine socially.

Friends and people that I know take it at weekends, at parties, bars or clubs and sometimes on a night in with friends and a bottle of wine.

These people are teachers, sahms, childcare workers, administrators, financial advisors and social workers so a real mix.

Is it becoming more socially acceptable? Would you have a problem if your friend did it occasionally?

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UncleT · 16/09/2014 14:50

It's a class A drug, imported and supplied by the same shits who blight our cities and towns with crack cocaine. It's also horribly addictive and highly dangerous, even for the relatively healthy. No, nothing acceptable about it.

Original poster
sshroom · 16/09/2014 14:50

Well good on you rainbow..however that doesn't give you a right to be rude.

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rainbowinmyroom · 16/09/2014 14:51

I do, in fact. I think drugs should be legalised and taxed, just as the drugs nicotine and alcohol are.

rainbowinmyroom · 16/09/2014 14:52

I see, it's rude to say I find people who use this drug as it stands now scumbags, and those who hang around them and accept it on the same line.

Okay.

Hmm
fluffyraggies · 16/09/2014 14:53

Had to smile at
''A 50 something from Devon probably doesn't experience many of her friends taking coke in a bar on a Saturday night''

and then straight afterwards

''You shouldn't ASSume anything.''

both from OP.

Anyway - my experience of 'casual coke use' is through one of my DHs work friends. He began by smoking weed. Then began growing, selling and smoking weed. Then started taking coke occasionally as well. Then did lines every weekend. Now it's through the week as well. Plus the weed.

DH is about to sack him as he is now useless at work (and has been so for months - DH and others have tried to pursued him to stop the coke). But he's hooked. He has begun to do lines in front of his 7 year old boy. He says coke is a harmless social drug too.

UptheHammers1 · 16/09/2014 14:53

Calling that anyone who finds a 'cheeky line' acceptable a Scumbag is way over the top.
Murderers, rapist, paedophiles, armed robbers and wife beaters and many more unsavoury people are scumbags… get a grip and bring this back to reality

SirChenjin · 16/09/2014 14:53

So - it would seem - from your highly scientific MN survey shroom - that most people on here don't think it's becoming more socially acceptable, unless you're someone who hangs about in circles where drug taking is prevalent or who doesn't have a problem with drug taking per se.

No surprises there really.

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2014 14:54

I am finding that it is becoming more acceptable to use cocaine socially.

Disagree. I think it is just the friends you hang out with at any given time. In the late nineties I was hanging out with a group where no one would have blinked about it. Now none of my friends would. Most were slightly older than me at the time with professional jobs.

It didn't exactly bother me at the time that they did it (I didn't do it and was pretty much the only one who didn't) apart from the fact that it made people selfish dicks whilst doing it. It was the best advert for not doing drugs myself. Of course they never realised how it changed their personalities... every bit as much as alcohol.

At least with the alcohol they could measure how much they had had, and were aware themselves when they were pissed and their behaviour was not the same as when they were sober. On the drugs they believed nothing had changed and they were just getting a high.

Now I just can't be arsed with anyone who thinks its big and clever and does it. Nor can I be arsed much with anyone who defends its use. That said I do disagree with our current laws.

There is so much more to life than doing drugs. I don't understand drinking to excess either. Especially given the misery they cause for everyone in the supply chain through to those taking it and their friends/family.

If you want a high, there are much better ways to get one than putting chemicals into your body.

whois · 16/09/2014 14:54

I think you'd have to be a thoroughly boring and dull person if you needed cocaine to make your nights in interesting

I assume you never have wine to drink at dinner parties or on nights in? I think it's really sad that people need wine to make their social events more interesting.

sanfairyanne · 16/09/2014 14:54

its a crap drug. just makes you behave like a total twat.
there probably has been an increase in use. it is more socially acceptable to be a total twat in public. in the past, only musicians and city.traders were allowed to behave like complete dickheads in public. now we all can

yay for progress and equality

CoteDAzur · 16/09/2014 14:55

"Cocaine is known as a highly addictive brain stimulant"

It is far less addictive than nicotine. And yet cigarettes are legal.

I am not saying "Cocaine is wonderful, everyone should use it" (I don't use it myself) but its demonisation is unjustified, especially in a world where more addictive, more dangerous, and more harmful substances are legal.

SirChenjin · 16/09/2014 14:56

Cigarettes sold as Asda are hardly supporting the same industries as drugs though, are they. Keep it in perspective.

SirChenjin · 16/09/2014 14:56

in Asda

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2014 15:00

there probably has been an increase in use. it is more socially acceptable to be a total twat in public. in the past, only musicians and city.traders were allowed to behave like complete dickheads in public. now we all can

Well, my mates were definitely not musicians or city traders. Behaving like a twat in public has been pretty acceptable for the last 20 years if you ask me.

Original poster
sshroom · 16/09/2014 15:01

redbrush which natural highs do you recommend then?

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DuelingFanjo · 16/09/2014 15:02

"Whether I take it or not is irrelevent"

but do you use cocaine?

What reason would there be for not saying?

You are being a bit of a twat to be honest.

CoteDAzur · 16/09/2014 15:03

Bulbasaur - re "You can't compare weed and cocaine."

You can compare anything and everything. It is particularly easy to compare two illegal substances. See below:

"Cocaine is meant to be a powerful mind altering substance."

Just like weed. Actually, weed is more mind-altering than cocaine, which only produces a state of extreme alertness & self-confidence and for a much shorter time.

"It causes symptoms similar to psychosis."

Just like weed. Teenage weed use is actually linked to the development of psychosis in later years.

"Once the euphoria wears off, it makes people anxious and agitated."

Just like weed, which triggers paranoia as well as anxiety.

FyreFly · 16/09/2014 15:03

Oh I dunno, I think the kind of person who buys drugs and therefore supports human trafficking, child exploitation and sexual abuse, the illegal arms trade and general human suffering - don't try to pretend that drug cartels and the human victims of drug smuggling occur in isolation - is exactly the kind of person to whom "scumbag" applies beautifully.

FlossyMoo · 16/09/2014 15:04

I wonder if those that have a cheeky line think that cocaine is produced in nice clean factories and that all the lowly workers are paid well and have good health plans?

You cannot compare an illegal product with that of a legal one. Tobacco maybe addictive and cause many many deaths but it is legal and it's production is regulated just as alcohol is. This ensure that the lowly workers have rights and are paid accordingly and there is no crime associated with legal products.

Illegal products are not monitored or regulated so the act of making it and distributing it has to be done illegally which creates other criminal activity.

As I said with each gram bought you are funding crimes against children/women/vulnerable groups/innocent people caught up in a crime by those funding the habit. The list goes on.

cherrybombxo · 16/09/2014 15:04

I used to binge drink regularly and have smoked a grand total of one spliff in my entire life, when I was much younger and thought it would be "cool". I no longer drink because it doesn't agree with me and I don't like the feeling of being drunk. I hate drugs, it is an absolute dealbreaker for me when it comes to romantic relationships and I'm lucky that my DP agrees with me. We differ on our views about weed (I'm against, he has no interest in it but doesn't see why it's illegal) but agree on everything else. I have had close friends admit that they have taken coke on a night out and it has really disappointed in them.

I also know someone who regularly took drugs but coke was his tipple of choice and he almost ruined his life, almost never saw his young daughter again. Thankfully he's clean now.

SirChenjin · 16/09/2014 15:05

Well said Fyre.

RedToothBrush · 16/09/2014 15:05

Errrr... actually doing something constructive in your life or doing something active/sporting or travelling...

...rather than snorting thousands of pounds up your nasal passage.

The imagination is a wonderful thing. Use it to think up your own ideas of natural highs rather than asking someone else.

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sshroom · 16/09/2014 15:07

Because it is irrelevent.

How do you know those who take it do not go to the gym, play football, go travelling etc? You are stereotyping.

I just asked you a question as you mentioned natural highs yet become rude when I ask you what exactly you are talking to. What would compare to going on a night out and having a few lines.

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Original poster
sshroom · 16/09/2014 15:08

Some very judgemental people on this forum.

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Bogeyface · 16/09/2014 15:08

So you do take cocaine then OP? If you didnt you would say so.

You are not going to get the validation you want, because what you are doing is utterly pointless and completely stupid.