Indyref 10. The Marathon Continues..

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All welcome

Other than the egg thrower, everyone who has been charged/convicted of physical assaults and making death threats have been on the No side.

The people shouting and swearing at the DC I have mentioned before are YES voters.. They are children FFS being yelled at by adults.But hey don't lt that stop you assuming that all yes voters are paragons of virtue and aren't doing these things. I do know if people that are saying yes but voting no because of what may happen. That is peoples lives at the moment. Just because it isn't your experience it doesn't mean it isn't there.

It is hurrendous whoever is doing it and I don't have such rose coloured glasses on to not think it is happening on both sides.

SNP councillor involved here.

www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/fife/fife-councillor-charged-after-confrontation-with-better-together-campaigners-1.571777

I can only speak from my own limited to once experience canvassing. No-one was coerced, no-one was bullied - people were going out of their way to give their positive reasons for voting. Not just saying Yes to get us off their doorsteps!

In fact, a number of them were just in briefly having been out campaigning themselves......

23 Yes, 2 No, 2 Undecided (verging towards No but as Italians didn't think it was their place to vote - even though we said that they should, it was a vote open to all living in Scotland), 2 Poles who didn't think they could vote so hadn't registered and about 20 not in (not surprising on such a glorious day but looking at their windows, they may well have been in Buchanan Street - I know that's where a number of the people we canvassed were rushing off to). One guy refused more posters on the basis that he needed some daylight coming in!

One guy had come up from Wimbledon to help with campaigning even though he didn't have a vote :) He wanted to feel that he had done his bit and been part of something historic.

Those stats are sobering, Chunderella

I really thought things had got better than that. But I still don't think religion is too closely entwined with the Yes/No vote. A lot of my fellow Catholics that I know are voting no because they're worried about job security. That probably sums up my perspective: I don't give a toss about the 'legacy' of the Union and would prefer not to keep the royals. I believe Scotland could and should be independent but we need more financial plans set out first.

Prettybird that's a great picture. I can't get the Buchanan Street webcam to work.

Has Scotland been threatened with a plague of locust yet?

Other than the egg thrower, everyone who has been charged/convicted of physical assaults and making death threats have been on the No side
Has this happened?

Don't need locusts. You've got the midges.

prettybird the same colleagues also said they told the canvassers what they wanted to hear so they would go, as just a simple answer to 'yes' didn't get rid of them fast enough. I am sure many of the people you spoke to are going to vote yes, but some will be voting no.

I have no opinion on what my colleagues said (and one said he enjoyed doing it for a wind up which seemed a bit unkind), but personally canvassing is not the most accurate method of judging which way a political vote will go as there are too many variables. I am glad you had a good day though :)

Is anyone London/SE-based and concerned about a Yes vote? If so, do you know there's a rally at 6pm in Trafalgar Sq organised by Dan Snow and Eddie Izzard? Just to demonstrate the wishes of many, many people in Britain who can't vote but want Scotland to stay.

I don't think Scotland has been threatened with a plague of locusts, has been threatened with a Day of Reckoning though.

My husband tells every one who canvasses us he's voting for whatever they're pushing. We haven't had any canvassers round but possibly the "No thanks" posters put them off.

BasketzatDawn - I very much agree with you.

I had flaming vociferous arguments with friends at Uni about the need for the sports boycott (unless you knew South Africa, you wouldn't have know how entwined sport was with the psyche of the White South African ) - but afterwards I was still friends with them. Ditto about private v state education.

Being a student in St Andrews meant that we had a wide range of opinions during general election campaigns!

Yesterday I had coffee with a friend who is a committed No voter. We had coffee 'cos she needed a hug as she is finding the campaign distressing (not because of anything that has been said to her as far as I am aware but for other reasons). We had a lovely time and lots of cake

But Abra how dare they tell us what to think !

Other than the egg thrower, everyone who has been charged/convicted of physical assaults and making death threats have been on the No side

That's a massive claim to make, no way can it be substantiated. It's the amount of 'unreported' hassle that is concerning to me.

I was in Glasgow today shopping and felt extremely intimidated by the hysteria and nationalistic frenzy on show. I did not think 'party atmosphere, such fun'. It was horrible and divisive. Would I have walked through that wearing a No sticker - would I hell!

I've Googled lots of combinations of no campaigners charged/ better together breach of the peace and can only find the story about the SNP councillor.

NHS Tayside Board Member Quits

The curious thing about the above story, is what on earth is Nicola Sturgeon doing appointing SNP staff to NHS boards... how much of that is going on around Scotland?

I seem to remember that the job description for the Chief Executive of NHS Scotland when they were recruiting a while back favoured a 'yes' minded candidate but I forget the exact wording and can't find it with google.

No cronyism in Scotland though, obviously that's a Westminster problem.

That's a smashing photo there prettybird!! Really sums up the atmosphere today around Scotland's town/city centres!

Livingzuid - that may well be the case. However, I think things like seeing the Yes bracelet on the wee old man and the piles of campaign brochures in the hallway and the multiple badges on clothes and the lady who said it's not just my husband and me, it's my mum too and calling her out (we didn't count her, as she wasn't part of our list) are good supporting evidence

The canvassing is not just for counting though - it's to follow up on the 18th and make sure that they've all gone to vote.

As people have reiterated, it's not what people say today that matters, it's where they put their cross on Thursday.

I chat to all sorts if they look friendly. Doesn't mean I agree with their views. Or that I'm afraid of them. Or feel the urge to tell them off. Oh and I would never lie about deeply held views. But if they don't ask I won't bore them with my love of the United Kingdom!

Camb, I don't disagree with that but the thing that BT politicians have glossed over themselves is the strength salmond gets from being able to 'other' WM & set himself apart from that. There is also the overall impression that as the majority party in SG they haven't made a complete arse of looking after their remit. All of this is obvious to anyone bothered to take an interest in what the SNP have been doing up here. Problem is no one thought it was worth the hassle because the polls never told them they had to. So WM listen to polls/approval ratings/PR spin but not the electorate. And here we are.

That's not my photo - I found it (think it's from Twitter) - but dh was in there briefly dropping a couple of campaigners off with extra literature that they couldn't take on their pushbikes. He said tow was buzzing :)

As well, the nasty tweets re Gordon Brown's deceased child, not criminal but not ethical. An SNP aide this time.

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Btw, what about the rumours started by Yes that Jim Murphy arranged the egging to get sympathy. On here as well, I remember "the photo shows he was wearing an earpiece" That was pathetic and soon proven to be crap when the eejit was charged.

The polls use land lines though don't they? It tends to be the more conservative end of the scale who use their landlines anymore. We have one and it is rarely used. I know the mobiles in this house are not listed and I am very careful about realeasing details online. Also, do the the Polsters use the voter's roll - because there are very many previously unregistered voters now signed up? Just wondering...