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Indyref 10. The Marathon Continues..

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WildThong · 13/09/2014 11:18

All welcome

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WildThong · 13/09/2014 23:15

He will need to find a three breasted woman!
Oh, here's one...

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:15

Chelsy you aren't the first person to buy a house or work hard. We're all in that boat.

You need to Google health inequality, possibly Glasgow, as shamefully it's such a shining example.

SantanaLopez · 13/09/2014 23:15

Come on, lovely, you can do better!

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:16

Chelsy are you well? Just you aren't really making sense. Time for a cuppa?

livingzuid · 13/09/2014 23:17

I have two long term pescriptions. I happily paid for them in Europe and in England. I am quite astonished at how everything is free for everyone. And how that will be paid for in the future.

ChelsyHandy · 13/09/2014 23:18

Whats if its something involving George Galloway or Comrade Sheridan? In The Sun, I mean? That sunbed pic still haunts me.

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/09/2014 23:19

Yup. And how have the current Scottish Government who have responsibility for health and education addressed that.

OneNight · 13/09/2014 23:19
Grin

I feel like he does.

ChelsyHandy · 13/09/2014 23:21

Stat Yup. And how have the current Scottish Government who have responsibility for health and education addressed that.

By blaming everything on Westminster, obviously!

Well, technically, all they have really done is release statistics showing how much the problems there are need to be addressed, what percentages are in poverty, ill health, etc., and statements about how these need to be tackled, etc..

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/09/2014 23:21

You should send that to Rupert. I'm sure he'll appreciate it. Grin

AnnieHoo · 13/09/2014 23:23

Lovely health inequality is universal. It happens in Belfast, Bristol, Brixton, Bognor, Belarus, Brussels, Birmingham, Belgrade, Bonn, Bucharest...

Same with child poverty btw.

livingzuid · 13/09/2014 23:23

I am a fly batting my head against a window. Pointless debating with people who are full of hate and rhetoric. Just some simple answers with a fact or two would be nice.

But never mind fact hey, when you can just make stuff up and dance into the sunset on your independence rainbow, placing the blame for everything in in life on something that is hundreds of miles away.

Oh and contracting of services and getting charities to do statutory based work began well before Cameron my dear. I'd do your homework a bit better next time before trying that one.

WildThong · 13/09/2014 23:28

Regarding The Sun, the big rumour is tomorrow's paper declares for independence. Two things spring to mind regarding Rupert...
Hillsborough
Milly Dowler

Oh and not forgetting 2007

Indyref 10. The Marathon Continues..
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WildThong · 13/09/2014 23:30

Whats if its something involving George Galloway or Comrade Sheridan? In The Sun, I mean? That sunbed pic still haunts me

Never mind 1984, that would be The Third Man and the Fallen Idol
Grin

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ShakesBootyFlabWobbles · 13/09/2014 23:32

Let's get that CEO of Iceland up for the party too he'd be right laugh

and I am sure he'd bring the buffet with him... prawn ring anyone?

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:33

Are you asking me how health inequality has been tackled?

It's been high on the agenda since devolution and I see progress. Free perceptions were useful but bear in mind those in most need already got free prescriptions, however for those just over the cut off it has been invaluable.

Education doesn't just happen in a school setting. Lots of work involves health professionals going into the community and reaching the hard to reach people most in need of the advice. That's about getting dentists, dieticians, (nhs), fitness experts (through councils) into these settings and talking with, not to, people.

That's happening the length and breadth of the country, and if you haven't noticed that's great, you obviously aren't the target audience.

I didn't last week, using money awarded from the nhs, in a community centre speaking to young single mothers making lentil soup and spag bol. Something none of them had ever done before.

That was one week of a six week programme targeted, the funding amount was £6k including rent,wages, supplies ect, creche for their kids and refunding transport costs.

Now, if half of them go away at the end and cook from scratch like that even just once a week it's worth it. I'll spend more time at the end trying to quantify all that work.

So that's the nhs funding pockets of work like that to take steps to tackle the problems. And fuck me they are baby steps but that's the way it is. If I marched into one of these women's houses and said you, stop smoking, cook, get exercising, blah blah blah they would quite rightly slam they door in my face.

Breaking generations of habit isn't easy and doesn't happen quickly.

livingzuid · 13/09/2014 23:33

I think that a lot of people are stepping back from the media reports now. It is all getting a bit too much. And people have made up their minds and they don't want to be wavering any more. So if Rupert Murdoch fancies sticking his oar in where it is certainly not wanted, then I don't think it will have a huge impact. That paper was always independence when I read it. Not that I could even read much of it. Or any paper really. Dreadful.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/09/2014 23:34

Since sombody mentioned the Proms ...

Did anyone else notice that most of the Albert Hall crowd were waving union flags, whereas most of the Glasgow folk had saltires??

Maybe they really have got a crystal ball after all Hmm

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:34

Where did I say Cameron invented it?

Fucking he'll, half the charities in existence wouldn't be there if statutory services done all the work.

AnnieHoo · 13/09/2014 23:35

There was a reporter on BBC news earlier who made a good point on how conventional politics has been flipped on it's head. People are dismissing the warnings from independent sources and bodies and listening to the "underdog" politicians.

TheBogQueen · 13/09/2014 23:37

I think the telegraph has some sort of story about soldiers dying to protect the uK, how could you vote Yes etc

The Sun has some halfhearted story about wether spoons which makes me wonder if they are planning to change the splash fir the sun on Sunday later tonight.

Sunday Herals has an rbs/ gov conspiracy story

AnnieHoo · 13/09/2014 23:37

Oh yeah. Good thinking Shakes!

ChelsyHandy · 13/09/2014 23:37

AnnieHoo There was a reporter on BBC news earlier who made a good point on how conventional politics has been flipped on it's head. People are dismissing the warnings from independent sources and bodies and listening to the "underdog" politicians.

Its as if half the country has gone mad. What are the lessons history teach us when countries' populations blindly follow ideological promises from obsessive nationalistic politicians?

livingzuid · 13/09/2014 23:38

why did you even bother mentioning it then. He just packaged up something that was already in use by the former Labour government. Nothing to get any more excited about than one would have with the previous govt.