Indyref 10. The Marathon Continues..

[WildThong]

All welcome

Let's get that CEO of Iceland up for the party too he'd be right laugh

He does

Can you tell me how the remaining percentage of cuts still to come are going to make us better together?

Because the evidence suggests that staying in the UK will lead to smaller cuts.

We might not be able to avoid cuts completely but I know where I'd rather they were coming from.

??? They'll be coming from Westminster. Maybe Hades, Persephone and Pluto will get involved, but again, the chances are low.

Can I come to the party? Please?

Yes, I've reserved 3 places for you

What's confusing you about that?

Rita In my opinion if you have to work to put food on the table you are working class. But that's by the by. The reason I mentioned 'Middle class' was in direct reference to someone mentioning the poor funding the prescriptions of middle class people. That clear?

Not in the slightest. You are trying to classify people and divide them, which to be honest, I find a morally objectionable. I think classifying someone as working class and poor is disgusting actually. I've been poor when I was younger so that I would run out of money to eat the last few days of the month. I would be horrified if someone came along and classified me in that way, as it was a phase I went through of not having much money due to a combination of factors. I think you are doing it to try and cause disruption, because you want to promote a power change, and not to benefit people at all.

You have an off-puttingly hectoring and dismissive tone, which actually makes you sound as though you despise most working people who do well for themselves, and as if you want to be in control of people.

Is that clear?

The last calculations I saw said that even if iScotland followed Westminster spending plans we'd still be running a roughly 3% deficit by the time they balanced the books (expected 2018/19). So the scale of cuts WM would implement would be smaller than the cuts we would have to implement. And they'd also be slower. We'd need to do this very quickly.

Oh yay

opinion.publicfinance.co.uk/2014/07/the-austerity-pain-still-to-come/

Over half still to come.

You ain't seen nothing yet!

I would be speculating as wildly as you are.

Nope, pretty sure I had five meetings last week all with people in Scotland, who said they weren't giving at the moment and wouldn't be in the foreseeable future. The meetings I have soon in England, hmmmm I am expecting pretty much the same thing. As are others I have spoken to.

It's such a fluid sector it's impossible to lay down facts at this stage, I've no idea how a lot of it will pan out. However you must be aware that there are many, many charities operating in Scotland without the rUK already?

What's such a fluid sector? The voluntary sector is one of the most stable in the country.

Of course there are thousands of charities operating in Scotland. Who equally are struggling to raise money and will continue to do so in the face of economic uncertainty. Which will have an impact on the services they run. Which has an impact on their service user, mainly people who are in need of them most. Exactly the audience you profess you will save through independence. Well done.

Can I come to the party, I'll bring my folder of disturbing photos?

Chelsy you are off on some tangent, it's odd and rather puzzling.

You can sing the stats to us! How about that?

Surely with my diabolical singing voice and the fact I am the gloomiest most negative person ever that would just drive people to drink lots!

Neither have you, lovely.

In our opinion Scotland would fall into a deep recession. We believe deposit flight is both highly likely and highly problematic (with banks assets of 12x GDP) and should the BoE move to guarantee Scottish deposits, we expect it to extract a high fiscal and regulatory price (probably insisting on a primary budget surplus). The re-domiciling of the financial sector and UK public service jobs, as well as a legal dispute over North Sea oil, would further accelerate any downturn. In our opinion, as North Sea oil production slows, we estimate that the non-oil economy would need a 10% to 20% devaluation to restore competitiveness. This would require a 5% to 10% fall in wages, driven by a steep rise in unemployment.

With the compliments of Credit Suisse.

In Rita's defence, I can see where she's coming from. Areas with high deprivation are far more likely to have high rates of addiction, mental illness and related diseases.
That doesn't mean the middle class don't get sick, I don't think that's what she meant.

I'm on 2 long term prescriptions. Paying for them each time would cost a lot. But I would happily pay for penicillin on the occasion that I get tonsillitis or antibiotics if I have cystitis. I know some folk couldn't.

I can't tell you how much I need a drink. I'm planning on getting apocalyptically drunk at NY.

I'm crapping it too Rooners. It's on a knife edge.

I wish Rupert Murdoch would get his shitty finger out and just do the "reveal" oh what a surprise The Sun is supporting Yes. Page 3 tits and all.

Roonerpism Really sad and upset tonight. It just feels so desperate. Why are the yes voters so blinkered?

I know the feeling. I know many, many people in the world are worse off than me, but I'm beginning to feel pretty unfortunate at the chance of luck that, in European terms, saw me be born in Scotland. My parents aren't even Scottish!

The main problem is that I own a house here, otherwise it would be much easier to plan a safe exit if it comes to that, and due to DH likely losing his job, its going to be a very life changing thing. We face losing much of what we have spent our lives working for in monetary terms, and I can't tell you how disgusted I am to read on here from Yes supporters that we should walk on the hills for free or that I won't suffer from ill health because I've worked hard and got a traditionally "middle class" (whatever that is) job.

You obviously have an easier time securing funding than I have then!

Big society, Cameron's dream that the third sector will pick up the pieces. That's been going well hasn't it?

What area are you in?

squoosh, can you do a power point?

Surely with my diabolical singing voice and the fact I am the gloomiest most negative person ever that would just drive people to drink lots
As if we need a reason to drink!

Do you think he'll write "yes" across women's breasts as the big reveal?

at the power point of squoosh's dossier

Well done. You copy and pastied from a link someone else showed you.

David Cameron thinks we'll be alright. At least he did until he realised he's going down in history as the person who lost the union

Chelsy you are off on some tangent, it's odd and rather puzzling.

Or indeed that some person dares to describe my and my family's financial future as "some tangent".

Ideological fanatics in control...just remind me what they usually do to nations?

statistically

He seems to be hedging his bets at the moment, Annie. Ever the businessman despite his close friendship with Alex Salmond.