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Indyref 10. The Marathon Continues..

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WildThong · 13/09/2014 11:18

All welcome

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AnnieHoo · 13/09/2014 22:50

Ahhh I like the Gibraltar idea wildthong...

Proms were wonderful as ever hearing Auld Lang Syne and seeing all those Saltires in there with the Union Jacks and other flags of the world. Smile

ChelsyHandy · 13/09/2014 22:51

Rita what do you do to have to be a "middle class person", as opposed to a "working" person?

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 22:51

I would be speculating as wildly as you are.

Nothing is ever safe in charitable funding. I've worked with national and international charities, right down to community projects with voluunteer led committees that don't have a clue.

It's such a fluid sector it's impossible to lay down facts at this stage, I've no idea how a lot of it will pan out. However you must be aware that there are many, many charities operating in Scotland without the rUK already?

SantanaLopez · 13/09/2014 22:51

No, we can't predict the future. But we can make educated guesses, and the vast majority of economic sources agree that independence will not help the economy.

EarthWindFire · 13/09/2014 22:51

Love a bit of Last Night at the Proms.Grin

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 22:53

In my opinion if you have to work to put food on the table you are working class. But that's by the by. The reason I mentioned 'Middle class' was in direct reference to someone mentioning the poor funding the prescriptions of middle class people.

That clear?

WildThong · 13/09/2014 22:53

Ah, wait til I phone my brother and my sister and tell them they can't possibly both have cancer at the moment because they are not poor.

Honestly, that is one of the most ridiculous things you have come out with lovely

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 22:53

No they are not onenight.

WildThong · 13/09/2014 22:54

Earth good! you can come to my party with Annie.

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 22:55

Again, gross misunderstanding, obviously done purposely.

And you know that as much as I do.

The poorer you are the greater the chance of both your actual life and healthy life expectancy being significantly lower.

Health inequality. It's a real thing.

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/09/2014 22:55

I am asking you to answer questions based on reasonable information and expert opinions. How can you be so confident that we can protect the poor without contemplating how we could achieve that?

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/09/2014 22:57

can I come? I promise not to bring any spreadsheets Grin

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 22:57

You are asking me to speculate on things that I can't predict.

livingzuid · 13/09/2014 22:57

And why do the poor suffer first when there's millions in unpaid, dodged taxes there for the taking?

If they've managed to dodge the might of HMRC all this time, known to have a particularly long arm, then I fail to understand how a newly independent, fledgling Scottish customs and excise body is going to stand more of a chance. Particularly not when half of them are Salmond's chums.

*Our budget, if we remain dependant, isn't safe. There is no safe option.
You don't know what lies ahead, any more than I do and I'm not going to Google frantically to try and pretend that I know the intricacies of the economy's future.

You are asking me to answer questions based on assumptions and opinion, because we won't have facts until negotiations start. And I can't do that.*

So you would gamble an entire nation's future, and not just Scotland but the whole of the UK, with billions and billions of pounds, lives, families everything at stake, on nothing more than bullshit.

I really have heard it all. I can only hope that some of the other Yes voters have done their homework a little more thoroughly and have a plan. But given the SNP don't themselves, chances of that are pretty much zero. And you wonder why markets are fluctuating so badly at the moment.

moggiek · 13/09/2014 22:57

Absolutely correct, Lovely.

Roonerspism · 13/09/2014 22:58

Really sad and upset tonight.

It just feels so desperate. Why are the yes voters so blinkered?

SantanaLopez · 13/09/2014 22:59

You can predict them. You might not be right. We all might be pleasantly surprised and things might all go beautifully.

But all the signs suggest that the economy will be badly, badly affected. Are you denying this?

WildThong · 13/09/2014 22:59

statistically Can you sing? We always have spin the bottle (once it's empty of course)
You can sing the stats to us! How about that?

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:00

I do however have a belief that things have to get better for the worse if in our society. I might not be able to impress you with stats. Luckily that's not my job. But at least I will know the next time I go to the polls it will be with a real possibility that my vote will count.

Can you tell me how the remaining percentage of cuts still to come are going to make us better together?

We might not be able to avoid cuts completely but I know where I'd rather they were coming from.

AnnieHoo · 13/09/2014 23:00

Let's get that CEO of Iceland up for the party too he'd be right laugh Grin

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/09/2014 23:01

Yes, health inequality is a real thing. Two of the biggest forces to combat it are education and healthcare. Remind me again, where are they controlled?

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:01

Staying is a much bigger gamble.

EarthWindFire · 13/09/2014 23:02

You can sing the stats to us! How about that?

Grin
WildThong · 13/09/2014 23:02

rooners on a serious note, try not to worry. I'm shitting myself about this too, a lot of us are, but it will soon be over one way or the other. Flowers
wanna come to my party?

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LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 13/09/2014 23:03

You know exactly where they are controlled and I am pretty sure you don't need me to tell you where the funding for these areas comes from and who allocates that funding?