So DS brought home a massive TURD in his book bag!

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He started Reception on Tuesday. He's 4.1 years. Can't remember his last poo accident like this since he was potty trained at just 3.

He was given clean pants but obviously no help to clean up as those were massively stained as well and he stank, bless him.

His pants were in a plastic bag with a full sized poo in them that had been there since lunchtime.

AIBU to think this was unhygienic and they could have at least tipped it into the loo or got him to. If they'D contacted me I could have been there in 5 minutes. Bit pissed off tbh.

Aww your poor little boy. I don't blame you for being angry. I wouldn't be pleased myself but I'm not sure the teachers are allowed to touch them. That said though they should have called you so you could change have changed him.

i just read he is 4.1, poor bubba. I do think that a school nurse could be used to assist cleaning if a teacher cant

is he OK???

Oh, poor little boy. :(

I do think the system deals badly with this sort of thing. Yes yes blah blah make sure your child is potty trained - but accidents are perfectly normal and common at age 4 and beyond, so if we want children in school from this age, schools need to be able to sodding well deal with it. Whether that means creating a role for it because teachers can't spend the time, or something else, I don't know - but bagging a turd to take home, and not even guiding him to wipe until he was reasonably clean? For god's sake.

If an organisation takes on the care of a child, they have got to provide what the child needs, and not sitting in your own faeces is a need!

At my DC's school there is a shower which can be used to help clean children up if necessary so there must be scope for helping them get tidied up. Occasional accidents are normal at that age and some children may have medical reasons why it is more than occasional.

This us unacceptable, and unhygienic. I would be talking to the teacher about it, if no joy a meeting with the HT..

I totally agree, all primary schools should have a washing area for stuff like this, as you teaching very young children who some haven't been long potty trained.

OMG that is awful. The poor boy, he must have been so uncomfortable. You are right to be pissed off! It's undignified too and just seems wrong on so many levels. How does anyone justify this treatment of a small child.
I work in special education and we would be in trouble if we didn't clean a student properly as soon as possible after any accidents. We have a sluice and laundry facilities too so the underwear would at the very least be rinsed before being sent home.
I didn't realise that this was the way mainstream schools and nurseries dealt with such issues and I am so shocked!

I work in a school. If a child has a poo accident, I glove up, accompany the child to the toilet and leave the door slightly ajar and remain in a position where I can be seen through the crack. Ideally there would be two members of staff present, in practice this is very difficult. I flush as much poo as possible, double bag pants (first in a nappy sack, then into a carrier bag with trousers- even if trousers aren't dirty they will smell). Then I give the child baby wipes or toilet wipes and give verbal instructions to the child. If they are really struggling, I will ask if they would like me to help.

There have been a few occasions where a child has clearly been unwell and have been so covered in diarrhoea that a few baby wipes isn't going to cut it- in those circumstances I will do my best to get the child comfortable before phoning home. I wouldn't phone for a solid poo unless the child was unable to clean themselves and was reluctant for me to help. I would never leave a child in an unclean state.

DD3 started reception last year aged 4 y 3 days and was still having occasional poo accidents. Without fail, the lovely TA would don gloves, drop the poo down the loo before bagging up the pants, wipe DD clean with wipes and redress her. I felt very sorry for them doing this but at DD's school they said it was no biggie and that she'd grow out of it. It's not a standard state school. I can still remember my poor older children coming home every day smelling of wee until they were 6 or 7 because the school systems didn't allow them to get to the loo in time.

Dear God that is fucking rank!

Of course they should have tipped it down the loo and helped clean him up, it's bollocks that they are 'not allowed'.

Poor little boy.

I would be speaking to the school and I would NOT be happy about this.

That is just the height of fucking laziness, it would have taken seconds to flush that in the toilet. Were they making some sort of point?

They should have rang you rather than let him walk about like that.

Our school 30+ years ago used to have a welfare department and a welfare officer to deal with accidents and illness. I remember having a poo accident at 6 because teacher wouldent let me go to the toilet, she cleaned me up and supplied me with clean pants. Old ones were washed best she could and out into a separate bag for my mum.

Chronically - Can I say thank you for doing that. It can't be a nice job but I'm sure the parents really appreciate that you have made their child clean and comfortable and returned in their clothes in a sensible state.

I cant believe they actually let the poor little fella sit in shit for what I assume is about 3 hours.

I'd speak to the Head, because that is cruel.

Yes Crohnically, I'd like to say thank you as well for doing that for our little DC.

My dd has ASD and has left the loo sometimes until the last minute, very rarely. I appreciate the school staff for cleaning her and making her comfortable. It helps that her SS has proper shower facilities too

Crohnically you are clearly in the right job, thank goodness for people like you.

Posts like the OP's make me wonder why some people choose to work with children if they aren't prepared for the messy stuff.

Christ on a bike that is so wrong! I would have flipped!

Poor little mite, he must have been sore and uncomfortable from not being cleaned up properly!

I just told DS2(17) he is shaking is head and asking what is wrong with people.

It happened in hercMS school too, they cleaned her up very well

Oh that's dreadful. Poor DS ):

At 4 yo he can't be expected to have to deal with an accident himself.

My DS did similar, but was a few years older. He just didn't want to ask to go to the toilet. The school phoned me and I took him a change of underwear and trousers. He was waiting in a private shower room for me to help him clean up. I was happy with that.

If I were you I would have to speak to someone in school about their policy on accidents.

Poor little guy! I can't help thinking that if they insist on the children starting so young, they need to be prepared for eventualities like these.

unfortunately we are not allowed to help clean the children up (only offer verbal instructions)

Surely you can get a nursery nurse in from the nursery class (who'd presumably have this in her job description)?

"unfortunately we are not allowed to help clean the children up (only offer verbal instructions)"

This isn't true- well,obviously it is- but it's a rule made by your school- it isn't a edict from on high.

When I worked in a Pre-school we cleared the children up. I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed to in a school, you're CRB checked.

I think schools make up these policies tbh. There is absolutely no excuse whatsoever to leave a child in that state. It is bloody barbaric.

I would be absolutely furious. If my DS had been at a school that believed that it is acceptable to leave a little boy soiled for half the day, and to send excrement home in his school bag I don't think he would ever have gone back quite honestly.

I am really shocked that people who are trusted to look after young children could have imagined for even half a second that this was OK.