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IrnBruTheNoo · 11/09/2014 14:00

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ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 20:58

moggieAnd Scotland becomes even more of an international laughing stock. Would you care to expand on this, Chelsy?

I refer you to several pages back when we were discussing international responses to the Referendum situation. For instance, my DH had a telephone interview with a Continental company last night, as we may have to relocate, and after it ended they had quite a nice chat. At one point the interviewer from Europe said "Have the Scots gone crazy?" Other people gave other examples.

SarahScotia · 12/09/2014 20:58

^AS got a 2:2 in economics and medieval history so hardly the brightest of economists.

I tend to agree with statistically that he knows fine well that the figures don't add up, but would say anything to get a yes vote and his name in the history books.^

I think it should be reiterated at every step that Alex Salmond is a figurehead for the Yes campaign, not who you are voting for. Obvious, I know, but the prevalence of bad feeling towards the guy is offered add the reason for many likely no votes.

He isn't either responsible in sole for the forwarded fiscal case for Scotland, so I'm not sure his 2:2 is strictly relevant.

StatisticallyChallenged · 12/09/2014 21:00

That's fine Sarah, as long as I can also reiterate that a vote for No is not a vote for the Tories.

squoosh · 12/09/2014 21:00

I think enough of that reiterating has been done. People are obviously going to have bad feeling towards him if they feel is blatantly lying to them.

cozietoesie · 12/09/2014 21:02

Ach, I think part of it is just people making sweeping statements. My own feeling on the shops remarks is roughly- I could live on if I never shopped in JL again. Ditto Waitrose. Tesco we use only if on the point of starvation. Morrison's say they'll drop prices? Good, we shop there already. Asda, I rarely use. Most people in this whole debate are looking at their own situations for all the issues. Politics has always been thus, I think.

But if the big boys can't weather any financial storm, what chance are the many smaller producers and suppliers going to have? For example, I'm surrounded by smaller shopkeepers who are having a difficult enough time keeping their heads above water as it stands. What will they do - and similarly small producers - if they have no access at current prices to large wholesale supply chains and producer organisations? (In a situation of challenging credit as well.)

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 21:04

Trixy AS got a 2:2 in economics and medieval history so hardly the brightest of economists

That wouldn't really get you a graduate traineeship in a banking job in Scotland today, would it? And to think he had a student grant, tuition fees paid by the State, and no need for a part time job while studying.

Really? O.M.G.

SarahScotia it is relevant, because as you know, AS goes on about how he is a qualified economist all the time, and constantly uses the fact to bump up his claims to know what he is talking about, along with references to a bit of work he did once in the short period he spent working for a bank.

trixymalixy · 12/09/2014 21:05

Sarah the comment about AS's degree was in response to a poster who said that he was more qualified than most on this thread. It's not exactly an outstanding degree and he wouldn't have been accepted to do my job and that of others on this thread with that degree mark.

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 21:06

I think it should be reiterated at every step that Alex Salmond is a figurehead for the Yes campaign, not who you are voting for. Obvious, I know, but the prevalence of bad feeling towards the guy is offered add the reason for many likely no votes.

On the other hand a pp (can't remember who sorry) said that people were voting yes because they don't like Boris Johnson Hmm

BasketzatDawn · 12/09/2014 21:06

I suspect AS has done a bit more economics since his graduation! But getting a 2:2 in the 1970s is hardly relevant now. Even if you are FM. And he won't always be FM. All those politicians, even the 'odious' ones, will move on. We can then bring in another odious crowd. WinkShock

As I stated above, I believe most voters are voting for purely selfish reasons anyway. HmmAnd most of this stuff is open to interpretation anyway.

PS I've got a Higher Economics from Nineteen Canteen, did it for a year at uni, couldn't drop it fast enough.

I must eat ....

Roonerspism · 12/09/2014 21:10

AS is on a power trip.

Whilst I desperately hope the no vote prevails, part of me thought today how satisfying it would be to see how the weasel would cope with the panic of a run on funds/banks/economic meltdown in the event of a yes vote.

He speaks well but he ain't that smart. He can't count, that's for sure. I'm not even sure he has much common sense either. His assertion that Scotland could avoid its share of national debt was shockingly ignorant in terms of the operation of money markets and credit ratings.

BasketzatDawn · 12/09/2014 21:11

People will always need food. And other shops. The basics of supply and demand will still apply. The look of the 'high street' might change but there will be somewhere to buy things. Scotland is already a developed country. Hmm Maybe some businesses will move south. Maybe they won't. I'm sure they won't all go though.

squoosh · 12/09/2014 21:13

Thankfully there will always be Solero ice pops.

Indyref 9
EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 21:14

Maybe some businesses will move south. Maybe they won't. I'm sure they won't all go though.

I think there will be more than people realise and businesses of all sizes.

moggiek · 12/09/2014 21:15

Of course they won't, Basketz. There will still be plenty of places to spend our pounds Smile.

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 21:15

squoosh lol

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 21:16

No, his degree subject and mark absolutely are relevant - because he makes them so. He uses them to boost the authenticity of his claims, and therefore he is partly staking the future of a country on it.

Baskets degrees are still relevant in most people's jobs, even if done years ago. You could hardly walk into a job requiring an economics or statistics degree without err a degree in economics or statistics, on the basis that you are aged over 50.

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 21:19

Why Squoosh why? As if I didn't feel sick enough after that hideous photo of TommySheridan sprawling on a sunbed.

WildThong · 12/09/2014 21:20

It's not Saturday squoosh cut it out!

squoosh · 12/09/2014 21:21

Apols, I'll leave the naked pics till tomorrow!

Tommy on the sunbed is now my screensaver.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/09/2014 21:23

I think some of you may know me well enough now to notice my absence, so I'll let you know that I am away for a few days now, and will have no internet/phone most of the time. This is probably a good thing for my sanityGrin I will rejoin you all on Referendum Eve.

I know earlier in this thread a quote from Mandela went down remarkably well so I thought I would leave you with this rather apposite quote from Gandhi ( though it may not actually have been Gandhi, but anyway...)

First they ignore you
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then you win

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 21:23

You do realise that actually crashed my Internet Explorer? It actually closed down and restarted itself. I'm not making this up!

SantanaLopez · 12/09/2014 21:24

Squoosh where do you get these from??!!!

WildThong · 12/09/2014 21:25

No Internet or phone eh?

Like the quote, it works so well for the No campaign
Flowers

SantanaLopez · 12/09/2014 21:25

Profound shite.
Does not the bills pay.

squoosh · 12/09/2014 21:25

I have contacts.