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Indyref 9

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IrnBruTheNoo · 11/09/2014 14:00

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oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 11:09

Breaking news over on the wires - deputy SNP leader has vowed to punish businesses that say they are moving in the event of yes.

If true - and we all know that twitter is not always the best of sources, it would be utterly utterly disgraceful Apparently there will be a day of reckoning with BP and the banks and that they should fear nationalisation.

Nice.

Roseformeplease · 12/09/2014 11:10

Food and drink will still be sold to Scots, by Scots. There will be many, many people worldwide who will still want the odd wee dram.

However, the main market, the one where so much of the "Scottish" goods are sold to (the UK) will become, overnight, a competitor. And that will mean that English produce (or Welsh or Irish) will be a more attractive prospect to many people who like to "buy British," that a "Scottish" product.

Take, for example, Aberdeen Angus beef. Over many years it has built up a reputation for quality and it is delicious. But, in a Dorset Butcher, faced with the choice between Scottish Aberdeen Angus and British Beef, what will the consumer choose? Probably British. (Remember that Europe don't like our beef all that much).

(You might be able to take a few cows across the border and sell "Aberdeen Angus, raised in Dorset" or something?? Not sure)

Roseformeplease · 12/09/2014 11:11

Well, we are moving our business (tourism, ) as soon as we can. We fear very much the English backlash against Scotland in the event of a Yes, where they choose to avoid Scotland and holiday in Dorset, or Wales.

What will she do to me?

WildThong · 12/09/2014 11:12

I didn't, for example, find the INEOS scandal at Grangemouth fairer, kinder, warmer or more tolerant. It was a national embarrassment. For anyone who has forgotten, it involved one union official being sacked for using his paid work time to do non-work stuff, and was related to a scandal of people being signed up for a union without their consent, with their signatures being forged

That's a good point Chelsy

cricketpitch · 12/09/2014 11:14

Just received this from my fund manager.

"We have a huge responsibility to our staff and to all our clients in Scotland and elsewhere. All current client investments are held under UK jurisdiction in England or for extra tax planning in Luxembourg, denominated almost exclusively in Sterling, but with some exposure to US Dollars. Funds invested are diversified throughout the world. But to be belt and braces we have registered a company in England and have transferred working capital to an English Bank. So whatever happens we still have your best interests at heart. "

Admit I am relieved

WildThong · 12/09/2014 11:15

irn this morning you linked to something from the BBC, calling them corrupt,biased etc. Half an hour later you are linking to a BBC article which you interpreted as promoting Yes.
You can't have it both ways.

WildThong · 12/09/2014 11:18

So whatever happens we still have your best interests at heart

And if they decide to move jobs away from an independent Scotland it will be spun as in "your best interests"

I wouldn't be relieved if I were you, sorry.

davrostheholy · 12/09/2014 11:20

I just got off a conference call at work with Austrian and Belgian and Spanish colleagues. First thing they asked me was "What the hell is going on with Scotland".
To paraphrase, they think you would be crazy to quit a politically stable, rich country and cast yourself adrift on these current "stormy" economic seas.
I realise I will get shot down "It's nothing to do with them its for Scotland to decide" - which is true, BUT I remember someone upthread saying they would vote "yes" only because the rest of the world will view Scotland as a laughing stock for having the chance of freedom and turning it down.
All I am saying is that on my contacts, they think you are crazy to consider walking away.
I think outside of Scotland, most people thought this would never happen, and are amazed it's so close.

Roseformeplease · 12/09/2014 11:20

I think they are looking after cricketpitch's money, WildThong, so she is relieved that they are thinking ahead.

WildThong · 12/09/2014 11:21

Sorry, misunderstood completely!

Goes for coffee....

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 12/09/2014 11:21

No doubt the Scotsman is also unreliable, but they report that Gordon Brown will consider standing for Holyrood in 2016 to counter Salmond: Scotsman

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 11:22

Breaking news over on the wires - deputy SNP leader has vowed to punish businesses that say they are moving in the event of yes.

I was just waiting for this "tactic" to be deployed.

Its becoming like a war.

Wait til they announce they will punish people for moving their money out of Scottish bank accounts and introduce capital controls to prevent it.

The Costa del Aberdeen might have to become popular once more for summer holidays!

oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 11:22

And those countries you mention Davros are in something of an economic pickle at the moment and suffering at the mercy of an ill thought out currency union. So they do look at us and think - we would be mad.

CoreyTrevorLahey · 12/09/2014 11:26

Corey why do you keep asking me, out of all the posters on here, very personalised questions? As if you think you know who I am or something. Is it meant to be some kind of threat, and shouldn't you be unbiased, particularly if you are bringing job references into it?

The simple answer to that, Chelsy, is because you are the only poster who repeatedly makes sweeping generalisations about the Scottish electorate - poorly educated, intolerant and not amenable to employing women in good jobs. I am sorry if you feel personally attacked - that's not my intention - but am I to assume that no one else on these threads shares these views or that their silence signifies agreement?

You are the only person who is saying these things, and I would like to know why. My experience is not your experience, but these are not issues which I hear anyone else raising.

You are aware that there is a human right to political affiliation, and that to breach it could land someone in very hot water?

Where did I connect this to political affiliation? After a lot of consideration, I will be voting No (with a heavy heart). I believe you're also a No voter.

If you have got the right person, and some innocent isn't having their life made difficult at work by you

Excuse me?

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 12/09/2014 11:26

davros that is interesting - and also what I hear when speaking to colleagues in London.

I have to explain that up here it's not all about the economy, stupid.

EarthWindFire · 12/09/2014 11:28

Breaking news over on the wires - deputy SNP leader has vowed to punish businesses that say they are moving in the event of yes.

So how are they planning on doing that then? They'd be laughed at.

oddcommentator · 12/09/2014 11:30

but it doesnt encourage confidence tho does it - do as we say or be punished by a politician.

cricketpitch · 12/09/2014 11:30

Yes, sorry, wasn't clear. I am relieved because they are looking after my money. ( My pension!)

My BiL works for LLoyds - he is preparing to have to move. I think it is awful.

I live in England. My DH is a Scot who is in despair as his country decides without him because he chose to work away for a while. ( Democracy).

I am hoping for a NO. I love Scotland and fear for it.

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 12/09/2014 11:31

They'd whup their hides as they sprint for the border, Earth Wink

squoosh · 12/09/2014 11:32

He seems to be quite a poor orator to me. He shouts and bluffs and seems designed only to appeal to those who already believe. If he carried on like that in most modern workplaces, he would be sacked. He isn't a good role model and doesn't create a good example of management.

I agree with this, I'm always a bit baffled when he described as a great debater. As far as I can see he doens't debate at all, he shuts conversation down by sneering and shouting and playing to his pals. So un-statesman like.

ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 11:33

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ChelsyHandy · 12/09/2014 11:36

DAvros I just got off a conference call at work with Austrian and Belgian and Spanish colleagues. First thing they asked me was "What the hell is going on with Scotland". To paraphrase, they think you would be crazy to quit a politically stable, rich country and cast yourself adrift on these current "stormy" economic seas.

DH had his first initial "short" telephone interview the job abroad last night. It turned into quite a lengthy and enjoyable chat, and this was pretty much what the interviewer from the European country he was speaking to said. The phrase used was "Are the Scots crazy?"

CoreyTrevorLahey · 12/09/2014 11:37

I don't, Chelsy. I have no idea who you are, and I'm sorry if I made you uncomfortable.

That's me off the IndyRef threads from now on. Thanks for the debate, everyone.

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IrnBruTheNoo · 12/09/2014 11:38

"Breaking news over on the wires - deputy SNP leader has vowed to punish businesses that say they are moving in the event of yes. "

Biscuit Right then.

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