To not understand why people hate David Cameron and the Conservative Party?

[SuperWifeANDMum]

Just that really.

I am a Conservative voter.

PM Cameron has disappointed me in some ways such as his lax approach to curbing immigration, deporting foreign criminals and addressing the alarming benefit culture but he has implemented a fair few positive changes.

For example:

Reducing our Debt.
Introducing Bedroom Tax.
Cutting corporation tax.
Frozen Council Tax.

Of you vote labour, why?

I am deeply concerned at the thought of another Labour government next election.

Goady post..

twas the night before the election & all was quiet about, until Davie Cameron's gofer sailed forth to open up her mouth

Zombie

I think that whoever is most likely to want to help the most vulnerable in society is the party that should win the election. Hence Tories will not get my vote.

Helpful article for anyone taken in by the myth that the Conservatives are running the economy competently

The bedroom tax isn't actually saving money it is just moving people into the private rented sector where rents are higher and the housing benefit bill costs even more, all paid for by other taxpayers. I agree in principle that people should not have more bedrooms than they need but the reason the Tories brought in the bedroom tax is ideological, not economical and if they really were concerned about the housing crisis they would be building millions of new social homes, not penalising people who live in them.

They are just perpetuating a problem which their previous leader (Thatcher) was mostly responsible for (RTB) and which Labour continued but which the Tories could have reversed by simply building more homes which they haven't (because the whole economy is based on speculative high house prices). They don't care about the populace, only about the a small percentage of core supporters who are mostly very wealthy and they have made a lot of ideological decisions which are not prudent (and I don't think Labour were any better before you start). If they were running a company it would be bankrupt by now.

got as far as you praising bedroom tax and i feel sick im trying my hardest not to get personal so here goes

people with disabled children need and extra room for the child they are not allowed to do that

people who need carers in cannot give them a room

people who have grandchildren who stay

people who have share custody of there children

in my opinion pensioners living in social housing should be re-homed to a suitable home/bungalow etc and allow families have a bigger home but they are voters and are protected

It's a zombie thread

I am sadly not eligible to vote as an EU citizen but I really hope you will be voting out the conservatives.

Britain had one of the slowest recoveries in the GLOBAL financial crisis of all EU countries. Gordon Brown and his Labour government had encouraged a subtle growth and in May 2010 the British economy was on its way of recovery. After David Cameron came into power the British economic recovery slowed down dramatically and at one point got overtaken by Spain.
The big mistake Labour are making is choosing not to expose the simplistic Tory narrative for what it is in the believe that the masses are unable to understand complex matters.

Superwife, I also just wanted to add to the 'fair play' comments. It's nice when someone can take on board comments and reconsider rather than getting defensive.

To add to the general stuff:

1. I am disabled.

2. I am absolutely terrified that one day, I will not be able to work because of my disability. I know from groups that I attend the utter horrors of trying to claim disability benefits.

3. I am also terrified that there is a slow but growing momentum to private healthcare. I lay awake thinking of all the possibilities that this might bring. A slow change where GP appointments are paid for but referrals remain free maybe. I don't like the idea that we might make it harder for people to see doctors. Maybe those on benefits would get it free, like prescription charges. But I'm not on benefits, so don't get free prescriptions. All the medication I take has to be paid for, though I take enough of the damned stuff to have paid for a pre-payment certificate. Maybe health insurance companies would flourish - but I have a long term health issue, so wouldn't be insurable. I'm not saying any one of the parties have said they will do these things, but with the slow crumble of the NHS, I'm left vulnerable and scared, and what I really, really wanted to see was one of the main parties standing up and saying 'We will absolutely protect your NHS and ensure that it remains free at point of service.' They didn't, and I'm scared.

I am left thinking, of all the parties, which ones have made me feel like a pariah for having a disability? Which ones have made me feel like a problem to be solved? Which ones have seen me as a burden they just have to put up with? The coalition have done exactly these things.

I'm voting for one of the others.

The media in this country is largely right wing due to the types of tax avoiding Scum that own the papers. It wouldn't be in their interest to slate the Tory government, and people with media monopolies only care about their own interests. Thats something everyone would do well to remember (my father, who is not right wing worked for a very well known right wing paper for over 40 years so I know how despicable these papers are).

It shows an incredible amount of economic ignorance to think Labour spent us into recession. George Osbourne pledged to match Labour spending before the recession while he was shadow chancellor and was actually calling for more deregulation of the banks. Theres a very good chance the recession would of been worse had the Tories of been in power.

It's also a massive con the austerity works. Our national debt is higher than it's ever been and under Osbourne Britain lost its AAA credit rating. It should be noted that the economy was growing at the end of the labour government.

The problem is, the media and the right wing have done a very good job of convincing people that the issue lies with immigration and benefits. The real way to earn Britain some money would be to properly tax the corporations. The Tories, while raising taxes such as the VAT, which does untold damaged to people and the bottom of the economical food chain, actually reduced corporation tax. In no sane world is it just to make the poor pay a higher percentage of tax than the rich.

Apologies for saying things Whig have been said before. I haven't read the whole thread and these are my reasons for thinking the Tories are disgraceful.

Labour will look after the people who need looking after. I think you judge a society on how it cares for its most vulnerable. We should be ashamed of ourselves.

My Sister lives with her boyfriend in a 2 bedroom house. He has recently had a stroke and uses a wheelchair. However they can not find any bungalows for them, they still have to pay bedroom tax despite not being offered anywhere suitable to live

Thanks for the link Icimoi

I despise everything the Tories stand for.
I particularly cannot stand the fact they have included in their manifesto a pledge to have a free vote on allowing rural thugs to hunt and kill our native wildlife en masse again (although did the twats ever stop??)
They were responsible for the needless deaths of thousands of badgers.
They hate the poor and will continue to give the most vulnerable in society a good shoeing to please Daily mail readers
They have no fucking idea about the often hideously difficult lives people lead.
I could go on but it will enrage me.....

I hate them.

Tory voter here! Always have been. Love Cammy!
I'm going to stay up all tonight/morning to see the votes come in.

Cammy? Oh dear.

A rich boy from Eton organising dead people to be declared fit to work is probably one reason.

yes Cammy.

Samantha! Good to see you here!

Do people get their paid bedroom tax back?

If it is abolished?

:(

I suppose it is marginally preferable to tosser.
Oh well.... I suppose all have our cross to bear.

No one pays a bedroom tax. They just don't get given housing benefit for bedrooms they don't need anymore.

Yes, I know some people genuinely needed their spare rooms because of medical reasons, but the majority didn't.

It's not a tax FFS! That was another bit of labour spin.

Icimoi whatever

I was probably voting Tory before most of you lot were born. Labour always mess up when they get in.

You have a very short and somewhat selective memory Chandalier

missing no you are the one with the short memory!

Although TBF I have found that to be a common trait in Tory voters