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To believe that it will be a "no" vote in the majority on the 18th?

258 replies

Tabby1963 · 09/09/2014 16:41

My reasoning is that, although there appears (from media reports) to be increased enthusiasm for voting "yes" it is not the whole story (they're just shouting the loudest). The noes are the default; and therefore they don't have to say anything or do anything, just vote on the 18th.

My experience having chatted to neighbours, colleagues, friends is that the vast majority (more than 80%) are going to be voting no.

I'm hoping for a no vote, I care hugely about this country and fear the future if "yes" wins. I am certain that if "no" is the majority then I anticipate there will be big changes coming for Scotland, and devolution will continue slowly and carefully.

I totally sympathise with the notion that Scotland does not want the Tories to rule from Westminster and that only by voting for independence will that never happen again, but surely we have to look at the bigger picture here? There is so much at stake to base the future of Scotland and its inhabitants on this single issue?

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awaynboilyurheid · 09/09/2014 18:53

Hope its a no (really really hope its a No) but think it will be close, on speaking to family its pretty mixed opinions

nulgirl · 09/09/2014 18:57

I feel sick at the thought of a yes vote. The whole thing, whilst it has generated debate, has been so divisive that regardless of the result, the scars and recriminations are going to overshadow British politics for years to come.

helensburgh · 09/09/2014 18:58

I'm in a No area possibly the only one in Scotland. Last pol showed 70% no

The fields are full of No banners , in our large town I have seen two yes banners that's all.

I think it will be No but by around 8%

FannyFifer · 09/09/2014 18:59

The fields are full of No signs due to the rich landowners.

EverythingIsAwesome · 09/09/2014 19:00

Everyone, bar 2, that I know are voting Yes.

TeamScotland · 09/09/2014 19:01

My Spidey senses say "yes".

nethunsreject · 09/09/2014 19:04

Rich land owners?! Really? The folk round here with no signs in fields are tenant farmers who will go under quickly in the event of us not being part of eu.

TheBogQueen · 09/09/2014 19:05

It's exciting and sobering at the same time - for the first time in my life my vote will actually count!

nethunsreject · 09/09/2014 19:05

Plus pop to Skye to see fields full of yes signs.

JohnCusacksWife · 09/09/2014 19:08

Yet again the debate is starting to degenerate with people making wild assumptions! Why do some assume that all No voters are wealthy???

TheGirlOnTheLanding · 09/09/2014 19:09

I think it's too close to call. The polls don't reflect the majority of conversations I've had (more yeses than nos) but I agree the undecided may all decide better the devil they know. I am a reluctant yes and feel really sad that a properly worked out Devo Max wasn't offered as a third option from the start, as that would likely have avoided this situation.

SauvignonBlanche · 09/09/2014 19:10

I think it will be close but I think the No's may have it.

Groovee · 09/09/2014 19:11

The yes campaigners seem to have upped their game. They all seem to have trailers and driving about with Scotland flags.

I still haven't made up my mind.

LineRunner · 09/09/2014 19:12

I'm assuming No, probably 56-44 on the day.

flippinada · 09/09/2014 19:12

I'm English and live in Scotland.

I genuinely don't know which way I'm going to vote and I don't know who will win.

I don't like the better together campaign at all, but I'm also increasingly put off by the aggressively nationalist nature of the yes campaign (an example of the stuff is an invitation to an "I'm not British, I'm Scottish" party) . It's bought out a very nasty side in some people that I thought better of.

rainbowinmyroom · 09/09/2014 19:13

No one knows for sure.

TheBogQueen · 09/09/2014 19:18

Driving into the countryside the farmers seem to have all hired trailers and you get a Yes/No Thanks sequence as you drive along

ApocalypseThen · 09/09/2014 19:20

Very interesting looking at this from Ireland, especially this killing home rule with kindness plan being resurrected.

Nothanks18 · 09/09/2014 19:22

I know of only one Yes voter among my friends -there are too many unknowns to vote yes. Too many partisan, aggressive and unthinking yes voters, all too vocal and intimidating. I really hope the No voters will be the silent majority!

TidyDancer · 09/09/2014 19:22

I'm have a number of Scottish friends (both eligible and ineligible to vote) who are hoping the no vote wins. For Scotland's sake, I am too. I don't want them to go and I think they will regret it if they do.

EmilyGilmore · 09/09/2014 19:28

I've said all along it'll be a "no". Of course, the media is revelling in the last-minute tightness, too-close-to-call nature of it, it keeps it interesting. I'm not sure the latest polls help either side especially. Yes, many will vote "yes" because the polls seem to almost legitimise their view, they think if exciting changed are ahead they want to be a part if it, to say "I made it happen". BUT... The same number (actually more I reckon) will turn out to vote "no" because the closeness of the polls will have shaken them out of their apathy and made them feel they have to do something to stop it happening.

It'll be a no.

BasketzatDawn · 09/09/2014 19:30

I follow the news, English and Scottish, have a vote as I am Scottish and live in Scotland. And I've really no idea how it will go. I think it will be very close. I do wonder how the WM heavies coming here tomorrow will affect things, possibly Cameron, Clegg and Cameron won't actually improve thongs for NO, and the Scots haven't really been feeling the love from them thus far. IMO. Who knows. I now find I just want the decision and we'll get on with whatever transpires.

BasketzatDawn · 09/09/2014 19:32

Oh dear, things not thongs. Now that would be interesting but it might put a lot of people off politics for ever. Grin

tabulahrasa · 09/09/2014 19:38

I think the undecideds will swing it as it seems to be pretty close tbh...which means a no, because if you're undecided at this point I don't see what will suddenly convince you to make a massive change.

EverythingCounts · 09/09/2014 19:44

I think as BBB and others have said, it will end up as a No because in a close/undecided scenario people go for the 'safe', known option. Selfishly, I hope it does as an England resident because with a Yes I dread the prospect of perpetual Tory government down here.

I do agree the No campaign isn't doing itself favours right now - Gordon Brown was on Newsnight for them last night, not sure that would help! Wish they'd got David Bowie to do active campaigning rather than that one statement at the BRITS...

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