To believe that it will be a "no" vote in the majority on the 18th?

[Tabby1963]

My reasoning is that, although there appears (from media reports) to be increased enthusiasm for voting "yes" it is not the whole story (they're just shouting the loudest). The noes are the default; and therefore they don't have to say anything or do anything, just vote on the 18th.

My experience having chatted to neighbours, colleagues, friends is that the vast majority (more than 80%) are going to be voting no.

I'm hoping for a no vote, I care hugely about this country and fear the future if "yes" wins. I am certain that if "no" is the majority then I anticipate there will be big changes coming for Scotland, and devolution will continue slowly and carefully.

I totally sympathise with the notion that Scotland does not want the Tories to rule from Westminster and that only by voting for independence will that never happen again, but surely we have to look at the bigger picture here? There is so much at stake to base the future of Scotland and its inhabitants on this single issue?

I don't know where the idea that there will be another referendum is coming from.

Who has said this? Why would it happen?

This is the only chance fur independence - for better or for worse. There will never be a 'good time' fir independence.

And I am not voting fir Alex Salmond - he is not a quantity in this as I'm sure he will retire soon. It's bigger than Alex Salmond

We've had two referenda (? sorry if I'm not using the right term there ) within the last 35 years.

So it's not unlikely to think there might be another one within a similar timescale.

Just to be clear, that doesn't include this one. Including this one, it's three.

If the feeling for independence grows with the separation caused by devolution (likely) there could well be calls for another referendum.

Stating the bleeding obvious there.. [blush.

But surely Westminster could just say no?

(Especially we've made David Cameron cry)

I think it will be a narrow no vote. I also think if that's the case, there will be another referendum within 10-15 years. Personally, I'll be disappointed if it's a no vote, I'm looking forward to getting my Scottish passport!

Can I just reroute the thread back to Morris's "all the cool people are voting Yes" post?

Bowie is for No - he is the Oxford English (sorry..) Dictionary definition of cool ;)

Anyway... Like I said in a previous post, I hope it's a No. If it is, and if Salmond accepts that decision and bows out, I will eat a mahogany dining table. I wonder how many referendums he'd go through to get the answer he wants?

David Bowie is from Beckenham which is uncool as it gets.

Didn't his son go to some private school in Aberdeen? Gordonstoun?
How cool.

( I love David Bowie by the way, he was my first crush in that film Labyrinth)

I would have proffered Devo Max, but we weren't offered that. We got a crappy promise with a week to go though

I am more and more certain that there will be majority vote for Scottish independence. I am under no illusion that we will be entering a land of milk and honey. I know it will be hard. I am desperate to be involved in the consultations to formulate the constitution of Scotland that are to come. Speaking to voters during canvassing it is apparent that the vote is two to one. Manning a yes stall side by side with a no stall is very heartening if your spirits are flagging, especially when the elected politicians that are staffing the No stall concede to us volunteers on the yes stall that "the tide has well and truly turned in our favour".

I think like you leaves

Bowie is a No? How wonderful for him . Does he have a vote?

Bowie is a No? How wonderful for him . Does he have a vote?

If he has a vote or not can't he voice an opinion!?

, especially when the elected politicians that are staffing the No stall concede to us volunteers on the yes stall that "the tide has well and truly turned in our favour".

That sounds extremely improbable

Ah but it's fine for Murdoch to speak out because he's saying Yes.

Anyone can voice an opinion, of course. I suppose most of us won't base our decision on the musings of a faded pop star.

But Rupert Murdoch is supposed to persuade or Ricky Ross ?

Completely irrelevant but calling Jagger "faded" when Yes has trotted out Ricky Ross and the Kanes is rather amusing.

Rupert Murdoch is pro independence? That's interesting.

Who called Jagger faded?

Rupert Murdoch is pro independence? That's interesting.

He has been on TV saying he 'hasn't decided' I thought.

I did a quick Google and see he has hinted at support. Also that the Scottish Sun is leaning yes.

who called Jagger faded?

Sorry the poster called Bowie faded but I was sitting reading an article which had a photo of Jagger as he's supporting no!

Comment stands tho' both .

Although of all the celeb endorsements King Creosote is the best of all.