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It amazes me how Salmond and Stugeon have got this far. They have taken 5.5 million people for mugs, and may well succeed. If I lived in Scotland and depended on the dole I might be tempted to vote yes. How anybody with a pension or mortgage based on Sterling would vote that way is beyond me.

Why on earth are Scottish tax payers funding HS2?! Can I use the service from Glasgow or Edinburgh? No. Waste of money.

What a narrow minded view! Do you never leave the Central Belt?

It's the nature of taxation, and the same would happen in an independent Scotland.

I'd rather live in Iceland than the UK that is coming- UKIP, EU exit, punitive welfare destruction, widening gap between the haves and have nots, no democracy: plutocracy.

Santana- are WM funding the new forth road bridge? No.

They don't find our infrastructure but expect us to fund theirs.

Give me the Ice Hotel any day rather than what NO vote would bring!

IrnBru Why do you need to lose your property though Chelsy? Have you never heard of letting out property? Think of it as an investment? It's not all as doom and gloom as you're making out.

Who will there be to let it out to though? If people are leaving for job-related reasons, students no longer want to come from England in such numbers? There can only be so many housing benefit tenants to go round, and you can't assume they would necessarily want to move somewhere new.

And letting out property in Scotland is a hassle. There is far more regulation than in other parts of the world. DH and I looked into buying a BTL and were put off for various reasons, but we concluded that if we did, we would buy abroad where there is less expensive regulation and set up costs.

Are Westminster funding the replacement crossing at the Firth of Forth?

Did Westminster fund the Olympics held in Glasgow recently? Oh no, wait, no they didn't!

My figures are from August and produced by the ONS. Will investigate differences in methodologies. But it's certainly not clear that we have a lower unemployment rate.

Chelsy Letting out property in Scotland is not as stressful as you make out, we let out a property three years ago and never have had any problems.

weatherall I'd rather live in Iceland than the UK that is coming- UKIP, EU exit, punitive welfare destruction, widening gap between the haves and have nots, no democracy: plutocracy.

Gosh, no-ones stopping you! Just get a job there. People do move to Iceland from other countries, its not impossible. Or just move and hope for the best? I'd always encourage people to live abroad if they possibly can, obviously it involves uprooting, but if you have a deep dream to live in another country, why not follow it!

IrnBru Chelsy Letting out property in Scotland is not as stressful as you make out, we let out a property three years ago and never have had any problems.

But surely that's against your socialist principles? You could have shared your property with another family at cost. I hope you're not making a profit from it!

We're running a massive deficit. Talking about HS2 spending is spurious, as we are spending more than we are taking in.

*Commonwealth Games!

Redbinnio- I have a mortgage and I'm voting yes.

I believe my pension is safer in an independent Scotland. WM will increase it to 70 at least.

Gordon Brown decimated pensions. I'd never trust WM.

My bank is Spanish- I don't pay my mortgage in euros!

So, when good things happen, it's Scottish funding behind it
When other things are under pressure or failing (NHS, Education) it's Westminster's fault.

You couldn't make it up. It's getting like Facebook on here...

we let out a property three years ago you rampant evil capitalist wench, you!

"But surely that's against your socialist principles? You could have shared your property with another family at cost. I hope you're not making a profit from it!"

We set the rates low so we ended up with a long term tenant. We're not in it to be grabby.

Re HS2, it does seem unfair if you don't use it. I could say the same about Edinburgh Trams or the new Forth Bridge but I understand that it benefits others and it's part of being in a redistributive tax system.

weatherall - you are just making it up as you go along, are you Salmond in disguise?

Chin up WildThong, do you need me to find some boring stats for you

Chelsy- what are you on about regarding btl?

If anything there isn't enough regulation of btl landlords.

The registration is a low cost quick doddle.

Are you complaining about needing a gas safety certificate? If you would be happy foregoing that then I'm very glad you're not intending on going into the industry!

Just got back from a public meeting with citizen Tommy!

Wholly biased obviously but by jings he talks a good talk. Of course it's easy to promise the moon on a stick when you aren't in a position to deliver any of it but was inspiring none the less.

I also had the dubious pleasure of seeing gorgeous George on his no equivalent tour. Also entertaining in his own way.

One thing is true though. That was a miners club packed to the rafters on a cold Monday night. These people are turned on to politics, many for the first time. In these ex mining communities there's a tendency to blindly support Labour, regardless. I don't think that will be happening again. Like I say there's swathes of people switched on, they aren't just going to switch off again. Yes or no, the way we engage with politics has changed. I can't see many people sleep walking to the polls again.

Solidarity brothers and sisters! Respect!

Seriously though, due to DH particularly and my inclination, we would relocate, and I wouldn't want to hang onto a property in Scotland even by letting it out. Its too much hassle, I'd want to make a clean break and buy elsewhere, so I'd rather sell as quickly as possible, at as small a loss as possible.

Its also too risky to keep a property in a country where you don't know what laws the government will pass relating to that property, where you have no property rights protection from the ECHR and you don't know what the economy is doing.

DH and I are in our forties and we need to get our future sorted out (again, thought we had done it). We can't risk spending the next 20 years of our working lives in economic turmoil, on tenterhooks, with a property we wouldn't want any more, all for the sake of a country we didn't live in any more.

"The registration is a low cost quick doddle."

Correct. I know as I've been through it. I could have done it in my sleep that's how easy it was, and for others to imply it's extremely complicated and not worth the hassle is needing to look into it a bit further.

Annie- hs2 isn't 'redistribution' it is scotland subsidising a vanity project that will only benefit London and will damage the Scottish economy.