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Indyref Part 4

999 replies

SantanaLopez · 01/09/2014 21:11

Evening all :)

OP posts:
AFewFallenLeaves · 02/09/2014 12:40

Well Ricky I have a nightmare that on the 19th I wake up and think "Dude, where's my country?" Grin.

StatisticallyChallenged · 02/09/2014 12:41

I'd say the same except I strongly doubt I'll be waking up -more like sitting up all night

OOAOML · 02/09/2014 12:43

I think most do, I tend to try to gauge how up for discussion/debate someone is. Some Yes people I've spoken to have been very clear they don't want to talk to me, others I've had a chat with although to be frank probably not changed their minds as people are generally pretty convinced if they have posters up. Still worth talking though. When Yes came to canvass me we had a chat, although obviously they didn't change my mind Wink

Might depend how long they have been doing it, what kind of day they're having etc. The time I canvassed a Yes voter who shouted at me scared me off debating too much for a while, but that is really very rare and it is kind of like getting back on your bike once you've fallen off IYSWIM.

Criseyde · 02/09/2014 12:44

"Seven years in power, with time to plan beforehand, and the SNP 'haven't been able' to use their tax-raising power?"

That's right. It's been completely off the table, as agreed with HMRC, since 2007.

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 12:44

I said I didn't think there was an argument for no. She said "yes, I hear you" and left.

I saw someone else posting (on social media) that they had a BT campaigner at the door, and when he said he was voting Yes but asked how campaigning was going, the answer was "I'll be voting Yes as well at this rate." Hmm

I've not had any campaigners yet, I suppose either it'll continue that way, or they'll be like buses and come all at once on the run-up to the referendum.

AFewFallenLeaves · 02/09/2014 12:45

Listen, I had to leave the room when Mo Farah was aiming for his first gold at the Olympics, so I know I will need to get to bed with a sleeping pill on the 18th for my mental well-being.Grin

AFewFallenLeaves · 02/09/2014 12:47

Yes the technique learned at my mother's knee is to engage opposition candidates in long winded chat to prevent them swaying the undecided!

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 12:47

I have work the next day AFewFallenLeaves, I'll probably be the same! Although I doubt I'll sleep, probably a good thing I won't be in first thing.

TeamScotland · 02/09/2014 12:57

statistically see what you are saying, but if the sign is there, why bother knocking at all?

chocoluvva · 02/09/2014 13:04

There might have been no voters in the house too. She asked if there were.

StatisticallyChallenged · 02/09/2014 13:06

Surely her first question answers that -there might be more than one voter and they might not agree? Tbh if you said "there's no argument for no "then I can't blame her for not trying to engage with you

wearenotinkansas · 02/09/2014 13:15

been trying to keep up!

TeamScotland - we've been visited by both sides, and as we are both decided and voting differently they haven't hung about. The Yes campaigners (two of them) left immediately when I told them that we were decided voters. And then they left pretty sharpish

TeamScotland · 02/09/2014 13:15

She was walking away when I said that. I was happy to chat with her at the door.

prettybird · 02/09/2014 13:15

Who else hopes that they will be around long enough to read the 30-year-sealed Government papers from this year? Grin ....or wishes they could be transported into the future to read the 100-year on grounds of National Security papers Hmm

I'm sure they would make fascinating reading! Wink

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 13:18

There could be undecided voters in a predominantly Yes/No household, one of my friends chose a postal vote, and just crossed the box of the decision they felt was best and sent it off.

I think a lot of people might make up their minds on the day, or not long before.

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 13:20

Who else hopes that they will be around long enough to read the 30-year-sealed Government papers from this year?

I'll be in my early fifties by that that time, wonder how much will have changed by then... although if I do live for another 100 years I don't know how capable I would be of reading through the other papers!

JohnCusacksWife · 02/09/2014 13:35

I'm dreading the night of the 18th/19th. Have no idea how I'll sleep and I'll be terrified to turn on the radio in the morning... It's already giving me restless nights and I get that horrible anxious, nervous, fluttery pre-exam feeling in my tummy whenever I think about it. I'm really terrified I'm going to wake up on the 19th and my country will be gone.

OOAOML · 02/09/2014 13:36

I'll be in my early 70s Shock

Sallyingforth · 02/09/2014 13:36

Seven years in power, with time to plan beforehand, and the SNP 'haven't been able' to use their tax-raising power?

That's right. It's been completely off the table, as agreed with HMRC, since 2007.

Why are you blaming HMRC? I expect they were content to agree since it probably saved them some work, but that didn't stop SNP using the power if they really wanted to.

For seven years you could have been helping the low paid and unemployed, and you haven't bothered. You complain about the need for food banks but refused to increase benefits. And now you want even more powers.

Sorry, but that's not a very good advertisement for the SNP.

StatisticallyChallenged · 02/09/2014 13:37

Same johncusackswife. It scares the hell out of me.

wearenotinkansas · 02/09/2014 13:40

It's going to be tense in our house whatever the result - given DP and I are voting differently. I have already told work I am not coming in on 19th (childcare issues anyway) and if there is a Yes vote expect I will hide under the duvet until I can face the world (and smug DP)

chocoluvva · 02/09/2014 13:43

Me too. We'll have to make the best of it, but I will need time to recover.

The thought of negotiating with rUK -from whom I don't want to separate is just horrible.

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 13:49

The country isn't going to be lost either way. :)

I'm a little bit worried about the outcome too, obviously going to be really worried for the future/gutted if it's the opposite from what I've voted, but we're all the same.

StatisticallyChallenged · 02/09/2014 13:51

It is if you consider the UK to be your country /one of your countries.

Numanoid · 02/09/2014 13:53

That's true, I've never felt British myself, but I do understand that a lot of people do and don't want to lose that.