To love this buggy!

[curiousgeorgie]

DH got a delivery this morning....

My DD2 is a nightmare. She screams and cries if I put her in the pram, she's impossible to pacify in a restaurant or shopping etc...

So DH says this is the solution.

She's been quiet for 15 minutes!!!!

There's also lots of evidence to the contrary.

Evidence that's it's good for babies? Do you have a link?

Nick - she's not going to be strapped in unable to play

We're going to DISNEYWORLD!!! She's going to be in kid heaven!!

She has a lovely life, don't worry about her, really.

But will you be in DISNEYWORLD for dinner? (Why the capitals? I'm aware of what disneyworld is). And being fair, at such a young age your daughter won't know where she is.

I didn't say you were going to strap her in unable to play. But it can look odd.

She might not recognise where she is but we'll take her on rides, she'll see characters and she'll be spending 14 consecutive days with all her favourite people. She will love it.

(And actually she does recognise Mickey Mouse, so she'll have that!)

It is horrible, truly horrible. She'd be much better off in a rear-facing pram with you talking to her pointing out things that are going on in the environment around them. That is how little children learn best, not from iPads.

iPads do have their place, as do computers, lap-tops and TVs, but a baby in a buggy does not need to be watching Peppa Pig or some shit on them!

Oh, and it is not that unusual for a 2yo to know the alphabet and count to 40! Both of mine at that age could write their name too!

The research does say that children under 2 shouldn't have any screen time at all.

That is not a judgement on my part. It just is what it is.
I have five kids by the way and one of the has multiple SN and a couple are what you would call high maintenance.

All of mine have had screen time before 2 and the two youngest have watched far to much due to circumstances.

But it isn't good for their development. I am saying that as a simple fact. Not to have a go at you.

If you use it carefully and do not rely on it too much I am pretty sure she wil be fine.

You will be judged though. But then you will have loads of people come and ask you where you got it from.

So swings and roundabouts...

TheFairyCaravan - she's in a parent facing pram everyday, I talk to her, and sing to her, and give her toys and snacks... But she hates it. So actually you're wrong.

And actually, she was watching Sofia, not Peppa Pig. Hth.

I can save the OP some time.
There isn't reliable evidence to say its a good thing for babies.
I have spent a fair bit of time researching this.

HTH.

My DD's school thinks differently, our occupational therapist thinks differently.. Hope that helps too.

So your dd school thinks it's a good thing your 15 month old watches an iPad? Or do they think the use of iPads is generally speaking a good idea?

our occupational therapist thinks differently

No they don't.

Soz to break that to you.

They think children (and toddlers) need to be exposed to these things, as they are now a necessary part of life.

And my own experience of DD1 is enough for me to think they're amazing.

Curious you do what you need to do depending on circumstances. I pads are great and in certain circumstances they are a lifesaver. Is that a stealth boast fairy?

I worked in a nursery for a long time, I saw plenty of 2 year old who could do it Georgie! HTH!

I'm not wrong for having my opinion, thanks. I think it is horrible to shove an iPad in front of a baby's face when they are in a buggy.

Devere - do you know her then? Do you know me? Because you're entirely wrong. She does. She thinks they're fantastic. Soz right back at you.

Nicknacky there were questions about young children using iPads at school. The point of the first part of my post was that of course they do. And if they don't, they probably should.

If the hard to distract babies this buggy seems to be designed for is anything like mine was, there's nothing - no matter how fascinating - that's going to distract them for more than a few minutes here or there anyway. Certainly neither the computer nor the TV would keep her attention for long enough for a full meal. But it's got to be a handy trick in a parenting bag of tricks.

I think you need to stop relying on the use of it so much. You are crediting all your daughters achievements and milestones on it. It's an additional to learning, not a replacement.

Your occupational therapist specifically said that screen time is good for a 14-month-old?

If so, she's an outlier.

Look, it's cool. You asked if YABU to use this pram. Lots of us think you are. You're going to use it anyway. We're not going to change our minds based on the opinion of your OT, and you're not going to send your pram back. So...there you go. :)

No, she was talking about my DD1, not DD2. But at the time DD1 was about 18 months.

YABU, and I'm getting the dripfed justifications mixed up. Can you just stick to one?

• on a daily basis, your DD hates being in the pushchair/in restaurants/in shops etc, and you are at the end of your tether. This is why you've got an iPad buggy, and NO ONE is allowed to judge or we're all lentil-weaving Luddites with oddly docile children.

• the iPad buggy is just for an upcoming holiday: 'fourteen long days' at Florida themeparks, followed by dinners out, which will be great fun for a toddler who hates being in the pushchair/in restaurants/in shops etc and who is too young to go on most rides. NO ONE is allowed to judge or we are all mardy-faced martyrs who think mothers shouldn't leave the house.

• all of the above, plus screen-time is great for under-2s and if we disagree we're lentil-weaving Luddite martyr mums who are directly accusing you of child neglect.

I agree ninja it's part of parents gag of tricks, so you can set your meal in a restaurant without causing yourself indigestion, or on a flight where people are grateful you got your iPad out to calm your crying kids.

No, aeroflot it was in response to Georgie saying her DD1 was incredibly bright and forward for her age because she could do those things at 2. It is actually not unusual!