To love this buggy!

[curiousgeorgie]

DH got a delivery this morning....

My DD2 is a nightmare. She screams and cries if I put her in the pram, she's impossible to pacify in a restaurant or shopping etc...

So DH says this is the solution.

She's been quiet for 15 minutes!!!!

Bloody hell OP, you really are a drama queen.

First you say I called you a liar- which I didn't - then you say I'm accusing you of being a neglectful parent - which I didn't.

Given you child had been in the buggy for 20 minutes within minutes of it being delivered, it's wasn't unreasonable to wonder how much more time she'd spent in it today.

DH bought the buggy for our holiday. I have a bugaboo Cameleon that my parents bought me and I adore it. I feel sentimental about it because it was a gift, it was DD1's and it was the first 'baby thing' I got.

Doing research about Florida I've learnt that it will be a complete faff to take a 2 piece pram on the monorail to the parks (or on the plane) and that a one fold would be much better. I wanted to get a bee because I love the brand but DH is cheap frugal so he got me this one, with the added iPad benefit

It's solely for holiday. To solve the problems we have in day to day life with DD2 so they don't ruin our holiday.

I think I've asked this question before on here, it's completely true. So now can you stop with 'its obvious it's for your day to day life?' It really isn't.

And as I explained at the time Bear, I was testing it out. Seeing if it did make her happy or if it would be the same problem as with her other pram.

Read your OP again georgie and you'll see what a complete contrast it is to your latest post.

It was 7 posts in before you mentioned your holiday........ After you had mentioned in a restaurant or shopping etc!

And as I explained at the time Bear, I was testing it out. Seeing if it did make her happy or if it would be the same problem as with her other pram.

Sorry but that is just bollocks- you didn't say that at all in any of your first posts (and I can't be bothered to reread the later ones)

As much as I don't like the idea of baby accessories being designed to be compatible with technology as IMO thats a step too far I think some posters are going rather over the top with their views.

Although there isn't a lot of research published yet there is certainly evidence to suggest that in moderation use of interactive technology can be beneficial for young children. As with anything else though moderation is the key, sitting playing on it all day would be no good, using it as something which is just there really is unlikely to cause much long term harm.

She mentioned shopping and stuff in her OP, then she said it would be handy for going on holiday... She hasn't lied! And of course you test a pram before you take it out.

Some of you are just getting arsey because you know you're being judgey and nasty, so you're picking on her for anything now. Pathetic.

Ignore them OP, I hope you have a lovely holiday and enjoy wherever else you choose to use the pram

So what if she was 7 posts in before she mentioned her holiday?

Why are posters getting in a froth?

Cross post still, it appears that once a few people came on to defend her and tell the people who were getting all pearl clutchy to let it go, they decided to get picky about posts. Don't know why. Maybe they felt they had to save face, or pretend they weren't actually being judgemental about the pram, rather the content of her posts. Weird. Still, mumsnet attracts all sorts OP.

Why are posters getting in a froth?

I'm simply pointing out that the holiday, which is now the only reason they bought it, wasn't mentioned initially.

The OP has now made out that the ipad will be used while they have dinner for 14 nights then ever again.

Quite frankly I don't care if her child is in it 24-7, but at least have the courage of your convictions.

If it is a life saver for day to day activities then fine- just don't play it down when you've asked for opinions and most people disagree with you.

You don't seem to want to hear anything balanced or evidenced on this topic. Clearly you have an idea that it's ok based on the anecdotal view of one OT in relation to your other child. That approach has more in common with magic lentil weaving or whatever than the evidenced approach of avoiding screen time in under 2s.

FWIW I found the no screen time rule extremely hard to follow but made my own compromises after actually reading the WHO guidance. Passive screen time is the big issue e.g. TV watching etc. So the limited ipad time my DS had was using apps, actively, doing jigsaws, games etc, developing some hand/eye co-ordination etc. Even that, though, was less ideal than him actually doing real things in the real world and was a definite and mindful compromise. The idea of him lying back in his buggy, passively watching a screen...well it does get me judgy and seems to epitomise the concerns raised by the WHO and American Paediatric Association report.

I'm not in a froth.

Georgie was very proud of her DH's purchase this morning so they could pacify their DD in shops and restaurants. It was only when other posters didn't like it as much as she, that she mentioned her holiday.

If I had bought something specifically for my holiday, I would mention it from the get go.

I do have the courage of my convictions, I think it's going to be fantastic on holiday.

And I used dinner as an example... I'm sure I'll also use it at other times. It will be a lifesaver.

As an aside, I think the OP has massively overestimated how much a 15 month old and even a 4 year old will enjoy 14 long consecutive days traipsing round theme parks in the heat and humidity, queuing for hours for 5 minute rides and I say that as someone who loves Disney. I fear for the ipad batteries

Georgie was very proud of her DH's purchase this morning so they could pacify their DD in shops and restaurants

It's good that she is trying to prevent her dd becoming distressed, isn't it?

My (will be) 4 year old will love it, she's Disney mad and she's been to the Paris one twice and it was absolutely amazing. My best memories.

We're going with lots of people (parents, my brother and friends) so there will be lots of people to take it in turns to do rides, play or walk around.

We're also staying in a villa so if she's tired we can have pool days.

(So yes, I have thought about it.)

And I'm taking my mums buggy for my 4 year old in case she needs it on long days... I'm just trying to cover all the bases so everyone has fun

soverylucky - you wouldn't use it if you were in a restaurant and your child was fractious and you know it would calm them and they would probably lay in the pram and fall asleep?

I cannot work out why you posted this thread, unless it was because you fancied an argument?

I posted it because I suspected people would be very judgey about it and I hoped to be proved wrong...

It didn't go that way

14 days in Disneyland? Sheesh. Yabu for that alone! Hideous.

I can only imagine this is a wind up. It's clear that iPads are used in schools and are great for older children. But for a 15 month old? No. Lazy parenting. Lazy, ignorant and slightly odd. Yep, judgey pants firmly pulled up.

I posted it because I suspected people would be very judgey about it and I hoped to be proved wrong...

It didn't go that way

Hence the drip-feeding, the U-turns, the provocation, the constant goady winking, the absurd use of the word 'essential' and the crass insensitivity to the vast majority of SN families with tighter budgets?

It is all too clear what you were hoping for