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AIBU?

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To not understand why you'd get your baby's ears pierced?

215 replies

Slh122 · 11/08/2014 12:26

On an fb group I'm on there's a post about someone wanting to get her 4 month old's ears pierced. Apparently me asking why she would want to put her baby through pain and at risk of infection makes a 'judgemental bitch'.
AIBU to really not understand piercing a baby's ears?

OP posts:
MorphineDreams · 11/08/2014 23:57

Vaccines have a valid health benefit.

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 00:01

but how does anyone Know, the 1st injection are before weaning. It can cause a huge allergic reaction

MorphineDreams · 12/08/2014 00:03

Oh dear god.

I am NOT getting into a vaccine debate.

How does anyone know? Well I think if peer reviewed scientific studies are anything to go by.

MorphineDreams · 12/08/2014 00:10

I'll just leave this here as it's all I'd say anyway www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/dear-parents-you-are-being-lied

MorphineDreams · 12/08/2014 00:11

and this.

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 00:12

sorry I cant argue no more tonight.

MorphineDreams · 12/08/2014 00:12

You can't really argue with Science.

ColdTeaAgain · 12/08/2014 00:20

YANB and quite frankly I don't see why people have a problem with you giving her your opinion. Sadly she didn't like it, hence her reaction. Am surprised no one else in the group backed you up tbh.

Am amazed that ear piercing for babies and young children is still legal. It is technically child abuse. If someone stuck a pin in a babies thigh for no reason except for the sake of it, we would be outraged. How is making holes in their ears for a bit of decoration any different?

ColdTeaAgain · 12/08/2014 00:23

*YANBU (opps)

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 02:04

child abuse are you fucking serious.

Baby P or Peter Connelly was abused, many children are abused sexual, mental and physical. Are you seriously thinking that a parent who puts a bit of gold in a baby ears is the same as those monsters

Sarah121 · 12/08/2014 02:16

Am surprised she isn't also thinking of getting the kiddy some tattoos too !

chortle

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 02:32

I have never abused my children.

i Have 4-5 hour sleep a night if i am lucky, atm i am laying in bed waiting for my son who is ASD to fall asleep. Never lost my temper with him

To have some poster here think or even say I have abused my DD because i have had her ears pierced is making me want to vomit

I would with no doubt about it serve time for my 2 precious darlings. they are the most precious things in my life. the only 2 things that i 100% care about.

if you think i have abused my DD then PM i will happily give you my address, phone number DC school and Gp.

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 02:34

i have been up 20 hours, so when I said I cant argue no more tonight it means that my mind needs to switch off.

FreudiansSlipper · 12/08/2014 02:53

abuse, mutilation and FGM always come up on these threads Hmm

ridiculous you may not like it you may think it is a little of the cruel side or feel its stupid but really to be so dramatic just shows what little understanding some have regarding what far too many children do tragically suffer

ICanSeeTheSun · 12/08/2014 03:01

MorphineDreams do you want me to google and post real child abuse pics

burgatroyd · 12/08/2014 07:10

Chinese cultural reason
www.taoofpiercing.com/piercing.html

Also when in mourning (some) Chinese remove all jewellery. To wear jewellery as baby and have both ears pierced is to show that one is flourishing with both parents healthy. So if you were seen without jewellery you were not as fortunate say. May be bull to a lot of people but completely normal for a big section of society.

burgatroyd · 12/08/2014 07:25

i can see the sun speaking as an adult who had her ears pierced at 6 weeks old, I don't think this was abuse. In fact have only heard negativity about it in rural England.

burgatroyd · 12/08/2014 07:27

A lot of other cultures would find the Cry it out method abusive, far more abusive than ear piercing. One needs to take a long view on these things.

knickernicker · 12/08/2014 07:38

It's a cultural thing. It's done as a matter of course by certain subsets of Northern European families and by a lot of Southern European families.
If you're Middle class British it is inconceivable but to many it would be inconceivable not to.
It's really not on the level of genital mutilation and not an issue for me.

knickernicker · 12/08/2014 07:42

You don't see young women speaking out about the traumas caused by piercing in their infanthood. There aren't programmes on Radio 4 discussing the horrors of female ear piercing. Thus might be because its nit really a problem.

LondonBus · 12/08/2014 08:08

Excactly knicker... It's a cultural thing. Personally I wouldn't pierce my 9yos ears, because it's generally not the done thing before puberty in my class/culture.

DD has asked to have her ears pierced, but I've told her not before she has her ears corrected. I don't feel she's ready for that yet.... But never met anyone yet who thought ear correction, which is an unnecessary medical procedure is abuse.

fluffyraggies · 12/08/2014 08:19

I'm really pleased to see that this ''don't judge other peoples choices they make as a paaaaaaaarent'' crap is finally fading a little here on MN lately. All this 'it's my choice and no one's allowed to say or even think anything about it' business isn't healthy.

News flash! People look and people have opinions. You cant control what people think even if you don't want to hear it.

Earrings on babies look awful in my opinion. For all the reasons stated above in varying degrees.

fluffyraggies · 12/08/2014 08:25

Disagreeing with the idea of sticking holes in a baby isn't a class thing or a 'rural' (whatever that means) thing either Hmm

I'm working class/lower class (if these things still even exist?) - i don't like seeing babies with ears pierced.

Catsize · 12/08/2014 09:11

If I (with no medical reasoning etc) stuck a needle into my baby'e arm/stomach/foot/hand that caused pain for weeks and left a permanent hole would that be okay? What if I said it was for cultural reasons?
That would be assault, so why not ear piercing?

MorphineDreams · 12/08/2014 10:10

Let's just get one thing straight okay, no-one is saying it is even remotely comparable to the likes of Baby P. And I have no doubt that you love your children and would do anything for them, but what shocks me is how you've been conditioned into thinking it's acceptable just because 'it's always been done' or 'its cultural'.

It's not okay. In no other circumstance would it be okay for me to put a piece of metal through a baby without viable medical reason. But because you like the decoration it is?

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