To think if you pay for a surrogate baby that you decide you don't want you should pay for the op he needs.

[sashh]

An Australian couple have paid a Thai woman to be a surrogate, she had twins but one has Down Syndrome so they left him behind and took his sister home.

He has a hole in the heart (news reporting that it is in addition to DS, actually it is more likely part of the DS) and his mum can't afford his op.

Surely the least you can do is pay for his bloomin' op?

Obviously there should have been an agreement with who pays for what under what circumstances but in reality is a poor person in a developing country going to think about that?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28617912

www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-01/mother-of-thai-baby-abandoned-by-surrogate-parents-struggles-to/5642478

[MidniteScribbler]

Apparently authorities have made contact with the parents.

Absolutely disgusted by the footnote on one of the news sites urging people to contact the reporter if they know the couple involved. If the media hadn't camped outside there house they would not have needed to flee and legitimate investigations could take place. Their gutter journalism is putting this child (both children really) at harm.

[Mammuzza]

Oh dear god.

www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/425450/nine-babies-found-in-bangkok-urrogate-condo

I hope to god that wasn't a production line.

[plinth]

Shocking Mammuzza

I suppose if someone somewhere is prepared to spend £10k on a baby, someone somewhere is going to supply those babies and tap into that market.

[microcosmia]

That's unbelievable Mammuzza, just appalling to think those babies are traded to order. I hope they can trace the parents by DNA it's awful to think they might not track them all down. If they are illegally using this service to have a baby can the authorities refuse to hand over the babies to the biological parents ? Can you imagine that scenario, I shudder to think.

[microcosmia]

That's unbelievable Mammuzza, just appalling to think those babies are traded to order. I hope they can trace the parents by DNA it's awful to think they might not track them all down. If they are illegally using this service to have a baby can the authorities refuse to hand over the babies to the biological parents ? Can you imagine that scenario, I shudder to think.

[itsbetterthanabox]

I just think the child should be with her mother and brother in Thailand, that's the only thing that makes sense. Not with a pedophile or in care in Australia. The fund raised and the money from the surrogacy should mean the mother can afford somewhere decent to live now etc.

[SweetSummerSweetPea]

And, quite frankly, the press should back off now and let the appropriate authorities deal with it.

surely the press needs to keep an eye on whats going on there to keep pressures up that the children end up in best place whereever that may be. hiding it all away in shadows is not a good idea.

[microcosmia]

I think some posters expressed concern though about the effects of the media pressure on the parents, not out of concern for them directly but for the baby girl. If someone is feeling hounded or panicked how safe is that for a baby to be around.

[momnipotent]

Just read this morning that they were actually in the house the whole time, even while the dog was being taken away.
They have apparently done an interview with the Australian version of 60 Minutes and it will be aired Sunday night.

I'm glad they have been found and presumably are co-operating with the authorities now.

[microcosmia]

Crikey so they were in the house the whole time.how did they manage to not need supplies, food, baby things in that time.

[microcosmia]

The couple have given an interview and stated now that they want to have their little boy but the surrogate is saying she will not give him up.

//www.smh.com.au/world/gammys-surrogate-mother-won't-allow

[wanttosinglikemarycoughlan]

And on the news today the father has convictions for sex offences
But he promised the LO would be safe so all OK

[wanttosinglikemarycoughlan]

How many more twists to this sorry tale

[MiscellaneousAssortment]

Well I must say its quite clever of him to try and play the victim (yet again), by claiming the surrogate mother was going to 'steal his babies' and they had to escape with one...

Clever, yet not terribly believable. He has the hallmarks of someone very used to spinning tales. Which you'd have to be as a convicted paedophile.

[microcosmia]

The link above may not work now - it's changed to a different title since.

This interview hasn't gone down well with the Australian public at any rate according to news.com.au

[microcosmia]

I can see why you would Maryz the man did say something to the effect that he would leave their lives so they could stay together, if I'm not mistaken, which sounds as though he has some insight into that possibility.

[microcosmia]

I did wonder if he said this because he expects it to happen, though there were a lot of mixed messages too so who can say what he really meant by it.

[microcosmia]

It's an interesting point you make about the case of a naturally conceived child of an offender, I don't know what happens in such cases or whether the authorities typically intervene, or even know.

My cousin went through IVF for nearly 10 years and IUI before conceiving four years ago, and she considered surrogacy with a relative too. She gave up on trying to adopt during that time it was going nowhere for her. This case evokes very strong feelings too for her, she really empathises with couples trying to go down the surrogate route now, for the same reasons.

[microcosmia]

It's an interesting point you make about the case of a naturally conceived child of an offender, I don't know what happens in such cases or whether the authorities typically intervene, or even know.

My cousin went through IVF for nearly 10 years and IUI before conceiving four years ago, and she considered surrogacy with a relative too. She gave up on trying to adopt during that time it was going nowhere for her. This case evokes very strong feelings too for her, she really empathises with couples trying to go down the surrogate route now, for the same reasons.

[microcosmia]

I don't know what to make of the comment he made that they miss the boy so much that when the dad comes home his wife sometimes has dressed their little girl in blue

[MidniteScribbler]

I watched the interview last night, and I didn't believe a word of it. I truly think the best outcome would be for the mother and daughter to move far away from this man and not let him have any part in her upbringing, but I don't suspect that would happen. Hopefully, authorities will spend the next 18 years breathing down his neck so he can't put so much as a toenail out of line. I don't see any benefit in sending the child back to the surrogate, she is not their biological parent, and the child is now an Australian citizen.

I really do hope Thai authorities provide an amnesty period for any child already conceived by surrogates to ensure that they get to their biological parents. Perhaps handing over management of the cases to a group like Surrogacy Australia who can ensure that the surrogates have access to good medical treatment, counselling and will be financially compensated as originally planned and that the babies will be brought home to their parents legally after they are born.