To think if you pay for a surrogate baby that you decide you don't want you should pay for the op he needs.

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An Australian couple have paid a Thai woman to be a surrogate, she had twins but one has Down Syndrome so they left him behind and took his sister home.

He has a hole in the heart (news reporting that it is in addition to DS, actually it is more likely part of the DS) and his mum can't afford his op.

Surely the least you can do is pay for his bloomin' op?

Obviously there should have been an agreement with who pays for what under what circumstances but in reality is a poor person in a developing country going to think about that?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-28617912

www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-01/mother-of-thai-baby-abandoned-by-surrogate-parents-struggles-to/5642478

Yes, there is a fund. They've raised a lot of money apparently. The people who set up the online fund wanted to remain anonymous but have handed over all the money to a well-known charity who will use it to pay medical bills etc.

It's a strange outcome when the baby with Downs abandoned by its genetic parents...ends up in the better place.

Thanks Toffee, I will look up the fund.

I know, certainly at the start of the thread it seemed that this little boy had lost out but now...he is with people who love him and hopefully he will be able to have the operation he needs. The little girl will surely be removed from the parents but where will she go.

Sad all round, for the babies, for the surrogates. Possibly even the wife, nobody becomes a mail order bride because life is easy for them in their home country do they. That man though. Makes my skin crawl thinking of him being near the little girl.

Mail-order bride and mail-order baby. :( I am judging now.

mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-05/baby-gammy-father-has-sex-offence-conviction/5649966

This just went up on the ABC News website.

The bio parents are absolute liars. The whole thing is sickening.

I may have missed it whilst reading the thread, but is there any kind of collection to raise money for his heart problem to be operated on?

Yes. link up thread. Seems very well organised, they are paying bills not money to surrogate.

This whole thing is shady and seedy that little girl is not safe

My god this story is sickening.

I really think surrogacy just needs to be outlawed now. I would not be in the least bit surprised if there are many cases we don't know about of paedophiles having babies in order to abuse them.

Nancy it doesn't bare thinking about but you are probably right surrogacy should be illegal or regulated

It is shocking, if this baby boy had not been born with DS, would anyone have discovered that children are being born to be abused.

I just read about his wife being bought too buy a wife buy a baby just horrific

The wife presumably signed up to a mail order bride company through choice to find a rich husband, and as she is the biological mother underwent treatment for egg collection. She knew what she was doing just as much as he did. The pair of them are repugnant.

A family friend has told their local newspaper, The Bunbury Mail, that the parents knew of Gammy and his congenital heart condition, but left him behind in Thailand because doctors said he would not survive.
they left him to die.

You are right wannabe she is just as bad but she is more than likely to have been exploited and conditioned to think rich westener happy life but yes she is just as responsible

There's an interview with somebody who (allegedly) was involved in the case as part of the agency here

Wether that is a genuine interview or not, as soon as the well of revelations re the intended parents has run dry, I think the media will turn it's spotlight on the agency. Quite possibly several people have just lost their jobs with the agency going , so could be ripe for cash for stories about this case and any others they had concerns about, but carried on with anyway.

Do we know for sure that the wife even knew her husband was a convicted sex offender? If they married in 2004 and he was imprisoned in the 1990s, she may not have known, especially being a mail order bride.

She's still culpable for abandoning Gammy, but perhaps she didn't realise the little girl would be in danger.

I think the wife did know, in the statement from the family it is all "they", and in one of the links above people talk about "them" being at the hospital. I also watched a news report this morning (that of course I can't find now) where the surrogate was showing photos from her phone (blurred out) and one was "the parents at the hospital".

She also apparently knew about his convictions, she confirmed it to the press last night.

She knew about his convictions (plural!) and she went ahead and had children with him anyway? That's...different.

I read yesterday that she knew but said he was a good man. She may genuinely believe this. His neighbours said the same.
We don't know what she was told about the background to the convictions.

I say this as I'm aware of someone who defends their spouse with a similar background. She's not the culprit herself but she's been manipulated to believe that he was set up and unjustly treated. This has placed her at odds with everyone around her but she still backs him up. It's them versus the world. She is very naive and has her own vulnerabilities and he exploits these for his own ends. She married young against medical advice and has been moulded to her husbands world view. They have no kids either but tried to adopt (unsuccessfully due to her issues). There are interesting power dynamics in these kinds of relationship that usually serve the offender best. This may not be true in the Australian case and doesn't completely absolve the wife but we don't know the dynamics of this.

Agree, Maryz, I doubt she has had much say in anything.

Also possible that she only found out about the convictions from the newspaper yesterday of course, just like everyone else. What else would anyone realistically expect her to say about the husband that bought and brought her from China?

I would imagine that she is young enough that she would be able to be adopted fairly swiftly. It will be easy enough to remove her into fostercare and then have her adopted after a couple of months once the media storm dies down. She would be protected anyway from the media reporting...