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AIBU?

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I am being perfectly reasonable (Christmas related, already).

128 replies

PerfectlyReasonablePolly · 31/07/2014 13:43

I know, I know, it's not even August...

DC3 is due at Christmas, and this has provoked an even earlier than usual family discussion about plans. We normally host, and invite both sets of parents, although they are not always both able to come, and any of our siblings who do not have other plans.

I have had 2 c-sections so the overwhelming likelihood is that DC3 will be delivered by c-section on or around the 18th December. With this in my I have told everyone that I would like to just have a family Christmas, M&S food, probably a pyjama day so that the children can just play with their toys, and nobody needs to feel stressed. Due to our siblings' other commitments, this means that we will be leaving both sets of parents on their own.

My parents have been fine with this, and are talking about booking a fancy Christmas break in a nice hotel, which apparently they have always secretly wanted to do, but felt obliged to spend time with their DCS Grin. DH is too scared to even tell his parents! He is coming out with a variety of options which mean that we can still see them. E.g. We will still host, but he will do all of the cooking and cleaning. This is a joke, there is simply no way that he will get the house ready to my standard, and he has rarely in his life cooked anything other than pasta and pesto. Or we will go to his parents so that they are not alone (a week post c-section, so either we have to stay, which will probably involve sleeping in an uncomfy bed and sharing a room with our DCs and the newborn baby, or we will have to drive 2 hours each way on Christmas Day. Did I mention that I will be a week post c-section?!).

As a concession, he did at one point suggest that maybe we could have them over for a meal on Boxing Day instead of Christmas Day. Again, which he will get the house ready for and cook from scratch. Massively unlikely. I do normally make a huge production of Christmas, and I usually love all of the prep and cooking, but this year the only solution I can see so that at least the children and I still enjoy it is to ignore it as much as possible, and then shove some pre-made food into the oven. I'm not sure I could bring myself to do this if we had guests.

With both of my DCs I've taken a while to establish breastfeeding, and I know now what a c-section entails. I don't think I'm being at all unreasonable to stand my ground on this one, am I? Everyone is welcome to pop in for a cup of tea and to meet the baby after he/she is born, and I'm sure that people will be around over the Christmas period. But there will be no entertaining, and no formal meals being provided, in this house. PILs are not at all the sort to just muck in and help, so I am particularly keen to ensure that we are not committed to providing 3 course meals for them at any point at all over the holidays.

DH yesterday evening referred to me as "the Grinch".

OP posts:
Dreadedsunnyday · 31/07/2014 15:21

What about an early Christmas get together pre December 18th? At yours and entirely catered by your DH of course.

Xenadog · 31/07/2014 15:26

"PiL, due to the fact DC3 is due so close to Christmas we won't be hosting this year or even travelling to others. It will be too much work for us all and we need and want that time together with just us. I am sure you understand." Then change the subject.

Actually this will be a LOT better if your DH tells them this himself and you present a united front.

Oh and you are fully entitled to do whatever you want at any Christmas time without the excuse of children, c-sections, breast feeding or whatever. You don't have to have a reason.

Xenadog · 31/07/2014 15:29

As for calling you the Grinch, your DH needs to prioritise his family and not his parents. If he can't do that then he sounds ridiculous and pathetic.

GatoradeMeBitch · 31/07/2014 15:42

I would hope he was joking with the 'Grinch' comment!

Why not suggest the PILs go abroad to visit their other child? Really I don't understand the fuss around Christmas. I'd jump through flaming hoops if it meant I could just stay home and not be bothered. I'M the Grinch! Grin

fuzzpig · 31/07/2014 15:43

YANBU, your DH needs to grow the fuck up!

Treats I'm so sorry for what you went through, how bloody disgusting of your MIL. Angry

kickassangel · 31/07/2014 15:43

I was in hospital for 6 days when I had DD. There is no guarantee that you will be home, or may have just got home. Will your DH leave his parents sitting in an empty house while he visits you in hospital with the kids?

I am amazed you didn't explode at the Grinch comment. Not sure how you an deal with this but I would be telling home to spend the rest of his life with his parents if his mum crying counts for more than you and the children.

Hakluyt · 31/07/2014 15:44

So your Dp doesn't get to see his parents at Christmas because he won 't clean the house to your standards........Right.

WooWooOwl · 31/07/2014 15:55

I can't really understand the problem with having them over on Boxing Day. I'm sure your DH would manage to put a couple of those ready sorted M&S meats in the oven and get a few condiments out of the fridge. Boxing Day dinner is easy peasy.

It seems mean to me to not see his parents at all over Christmas when both him and they want to see each other and you are the only one who has a problem with it. Of course you will be the priority considering that you will have just had a baby, and you are entitled to be a little selfish, but that doesn't mean the rest of your family has to stop having feelings. Your older children would probably enjoy having the grandparents over after a pyjama day.

I hope all the people saying your DH needs to grow the fuck up wouldn't bat an eyelid when their children are grown up and trying to avoid them at Christmas.

glenthebattleostrich · 31/07/2014 15:58

Hakluyt no, the DH doesn't get to see them because his wife has just had major abdominal surgery and needs time to recover and teach the small squawking person to feed.

OP, tell your MIL you are sorry but she will have to make plans with her other children this year.

Treats so sorry for your loss and I don't know how you didn't punch the insensitive cow in the throat.

Hakluyt · 31/07/2014 16:02

"Hakluyt no, the DH doesn't get to see them because his wife has just had major abdominal surgery and needs time to recover and teach the small squawking person to feed."

No, he doesn 't get to see them because he won't do it right. Very different.

FreeSpirit89 · 31/07/2014 16:08

Yadnbu - my DS was born dec 23rd (no section) but I didn't want to host.

Tell your dh to man up and accept your wishes. It's one year!

Wishing you a speedy recovery.

WhyOWhyWouldYou · 31/07/2014 16:25

Tooold you are brilliant! That is an excellent way of trying to deal with it.

OP good luck with everything.

Karoleann · 31/07/2014 16:30

YAnBU - I wouldn't even compromise. New babies are really hard work andi always feel rubbish for the first couple of weeks (and that's after a natural birth).

Maybe your DH can take the other DCs to your PIL the day after Boxing Day and stay, which would also give you a rest.

Nomama · 31/07/2014 16:30

But, he could pop over to theirs for an hour or so. Just not too long because of the OPs situation. And why is it that families seem to choose the victim perpetual host and then get pissy when they have the temerity to want to do something different?

As has been said a lot, it is one year and family should understand that abdominal surgery means business will not be as usual this year. The DH has siblings, let them change their schedule for once.

OP does not have to be superwoman for all, or indeed any one, but her DH does have to be a man with his mum.

BorisBaby · 31/07/2014 17:21

My sister is due the 24th. My husband won't be working Christmas this year first year since uni we were going to be going to spend Christmas at my sisters house (abroad) with DB, DNs and our children a huge family christmas. I think she got pregnant just to get out of it Grin she still wants us to go but I don't want to any more I don't want her to feel like she would need do a single thing including getting out of bed if she doesn't want to. We are now either going to book a cottage in the middle of nowhere or spend it at home.

Mrsgrumble · 31/07/2014 17:28

Don't do it, your inlaws are very spoilt.

GatoradeMeBitch · 31/07/2014 17:29

Hakluyt, the house cleaning was a by-the-by, not the main point. Obviously.

As she said, she will be recovering from major surgery, establishing a breast feeding routine, adjusting to new motherhood again with all the hormonal upheaval that comes in the first couple of weeks, plus still caring for her other two kids. Why would she also take on the stress of having house guests right in the middle of all that?

Andrewofgg · 31/07/2014 17:30

HUMBUG!!

Ohwhatfuckeryisthis · 31/07/2014 17:39

You are having a baby (by c section) This is the trump card you hold that beats everything else. Everyone should be dancing attendance on you and helping. It's what people who love each other do.
Oh and dh was an arse for grinch comment. Kick him.

weegiemum · 31/07/2014 17:42

11 years ago Christmas at ours was a mess - dd2 (dc3) was born on 28 November and I still wasn't up to it.

A couple of years back mil cried because we didn't invite her. Despite her turning us down for the last 8 years (because dbil was around - they live much closer - and she couldn't leave his family "alone" at Christmas!). One year dbil and family decided to go away at the last moment - and somehow that was our my fault!

Tell her, then sit back, relax and enjoy your Christmas baby!!

firesidechat · 31/07/2014 18:10

No, he doesn 't get to see them because he won't do it right. Very different.

That was one of many reasons why hosting Christmas is a bad idea. The other reasons are far more important and reasonable. Why jump on this one point?

The OP's husband can see them another time when it is more convenient. It sounds like they are relatively local, so there are lots of other options.

YouTheCat · 31/07/2014 18:16

Hakluyt, she's not seeing her parents either.

He could see his parents but he'd have to travel with the older kids.

Why are you projecting such a lot that isn't there on to the OP?

hamptoncourt · 31/07/2014 18:24

I like tooold idea except I wouldn't even offer to have them for a cuppa as it could turn into something more sinister Grin

I think you need to take control of this situation and tell MIL it's a no go.

No way on earth would I have visitors around Xmas in your shoes. If he says MIL will cry, point out that you will have a full on nuclear explosion.

Then you will see if he is one of these namby pamby mummys boys who would rather devastate his wife than slightly miff his mother. And act accordingly.

God I love a good Christmas thread, really looking forward to November.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 31/07/2014 18:36

wow - unbelievable I just think when women go through so much to produce a mans children, the very least they can do is go along with some requests before or after.

It makes my blood boil, even if you said - I want to come back to a green house with pink spots everywhere HE SHOULD FUCKING DO IT!!! YOU HAVE HAD HIS BABY.

He needs to think who is more imp here my wife or my parents....

maybe they are both equal but right now, on this one, my wife HAS TO TAKE PRIORITY.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 31/07/2014 18:37

YOU could take bull by horns op and simply speak to them yourself?

Say its a fait acompli, your parents understand and YOU KNOW THEY WILL.