to think this should have been murder? Warning: potential triggers. Distressing content. [title edited by MNHQ]

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So it's culpable homicide because she didn't mean to kill him? ok then. I hope there is a special place in hell for people like her.

Posters who mentioned the CPS: this is a Scottish tragedy. CPS is English.

Let's all exercise some compassion. None of us know why she did this. Of course she must serve a substantial sentence but she is still a human being.

Did i read it right that she found him on the floor the next morning? So he'd gotten out of bed? Probably in pain and trying to go to his mum.

andrew sorry no compassion from me, not after what I've read today

I would have more empathy for her if she had sought help, hadn't disposed of his body and then lied to the police in a bid to hide where he was. So nope, no compassion here.

Sick bitch.

My compassion is reserved solely for that poor little boy and his sibling who must have known what was happening.

Fucking sympathy, compassion?! For a woman that abused and punched a toddler while they were sick? What is wrong with some people?

Some people don't deserve sympathy. They deserve to be beaten and left in a puddle of their own vomit to die.

All my compassion is reserved for the little boy not his killer.

I can't imagine what he went through.

If I remember rightly the inquest said he had died of peritonitis.

I had peritonitis eight years ago. I have had an emergency c section, an induction , broken arms and legs, and I have never ever experienced pain which came anything close to the pain I suffered with the peritonitis.

For that alone, for that heartless bitch leaving him suffering and also letting his siblings no doubt hear and see what was going on (and I do accept she has MH issues, it's widely documented but I do NOT accept that MH difficulties except in very rare circumstances make you a killer or negate responsibility for it) I think she should have been convicted of murder. The assault on the child is bad enough. The thought of what he went through for the next two days shows some form of premeditation surely, as does her actions when he died. Not to phone for help then - to calmly take his sibling to nursery, make a 50 mile round trip to dump him in a suitcase and then go home and wait till the next morning to con a full community into hunting for the wee soul knowing full well they couldn't find him - and it's culpable homicide?

I am Scottish and I am usually veering on the side of leniency even when a MN thread is baying for blood but I am so disgusted and revolted by this woman. This was a process she played out over six days, three watching her child die in front of her and continuing to assualt him. He had forty injuries. I sincerely hope she is given the longest possible sentence under the conviction she has received.

That poor boy. He suffered for days, the poor mite.

The Quakers say no-one is beyond redemption - they talk of 'the little bit of God in everyone'. I try to follow this line of thinking... but it fails me in this case. What a wicked, wicked woman.

I have no sympathy for the 'mother' at all. She googled 'how to make bruises disappear' and didnt seek medical help for him in case anyone saw the bruises.

Another search they found was something along the lines of - why don't I love one of my children?

The poor boy :-(

Fuck off with these calls for compassion.

Seriously.

She looked up things on google about hiding bruises and the question, "why do I love all my children except one?" Or words to that effect (possibly worse, iirc).

No fucking sympathy from me. I am utterly disgusted. She singled him out.

Evil.

Felt physically sick reading it.

I don't normally adopt a mindless vigilante attitude but it wouldnt be a huge shame if someone got hold of her and inflicted the same sort of pain as what she did on a poor defenseless little toddler, not in a fit of rage which came out of the blue but over a period of time during which she took steps to cover her own tracks.

Her actions were calculated and thought out- not an accident or a mistake.

My thoughts are with his siblings and other family members who have this horrific aftermath to get through, and of course with the little boy who had his whole life stolen from him by someone who should have been protecting it.

X posted Teddy!

Whenever i was ill as a child, the only thing i really wanted was my mum (still do now sometimes!). I have a nearly 3 year old and when he has been ill, i have always felt my instincts go into overdrive and i just want to hug him and make him better.

Things like this are just so far removed from everything i know that i just cant really comprehend it. I dont think my brain will even let me go there about what that little boy's last few days were like.

RIP x

Shes detained in cornton vale prison under criminal justice pathway,not in MH pathway
Pre-sentencing reports will include social And psychiatric reports.sentencing aug25
has a history of mental health difficulties,and reportedly traumatised seeing her father die

Wicker what did she Google?

I think she's possibly mentally ill.

To do what she did, to be so cold about it and to manage to treat her other kids well means the person must not be 'normal'.

Whatever the justification, what she did is beyond belief.

Poor little boy.

Shes in prison,not psychiatric hospital
Pre-sentencing will include psychiatric assessment

She may well have had depression in the past but the psychiatric assessment found her fit to stand trial.

I find it really out of order when things like this are reported and people jump to "mental illness' as though all people with mental health problems are liable to kill their children.

I felt sick reading what she had done to him. That poor, poor little boy. She apparently intended to give him and his twin sister up for adoption at birth (as has been reported), I wish she had gone through with it. He would be alive, well and loved now, if she had.

I think lots of people have experienced the sensation of rage as a parent. I have. I've never beaten my children and inflicted injuries on them, but there are times I've been beside myself and felt unable to cope. But I have bonded with my children and am not bringing five of them up on my own.

No need to wish hell and suffering on that woman. She will be in hell already remembering what she did. I'd be very surprised if she doesn't find every second of her life from now on torture. I know I wouldn't want to live if I'd done this.

:-(

Yes as i said she is in criminal justice pathway,and not psychiatric hospital
She would have been psychiatrically assessed on detention
The pre-sentence report will include social and psychiatric reports

Mini, how do you know she's "in hell"? This was hardly a crime of passion - she beat him over days. Then dropped his sister to nursery before dumping Mikaeel in a suitcase near her sister's place. She then let hundreds of people search for him! She'd confessed she didn't love him (as evidenced by her Google searches).

Who knows what her feelings are? Mini, you're responding as a "normal" iykwim, human who couldn't conceive of doing what she did.

Mikaeel and his twin were removed from their mother and were in long term foster care for a year. They were returned to her and Mikaeel was dead within five months.

Another a Serious Case Review (or the Scottish equivalent) then

It's so frustrating. S

Sorry. Phone.

So upsetting to know that they misjudged it so badly.

But, hey, they'll learn

God, I felt sick reading about what this beautiful child went through. The poor little mite, murdered at the hands of the one person who should have done everything in her power to love and protect him. I just wish he and his sibling had never been returned to her. Why didn't she put the poor child up for adoption when she knew she basically despised him (it is horrible that he was singled out and brutalised before she went on to murder him...why? How can any one hate their own child and hurt them so viciously that they die from their injuries?) :( In the months, weeks and days before he died he must have been the target of verbal and physical abuse :( I wish I could have somehow known and rescued him. I really don't care what happens to Rosdeep Adekoya... All my sympathies are reserved for Mikaeel Kular and his siblings...

I pray little Mikaeel rests in peace and is in a better place.