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To want to set the record straight about the Cedar Falls Nurse In

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Mamagiraffe · 14/07/2014 13:27

I am organising the peaceful protest OUTSIDE THE GATES of Cedar Falls. The protest is not taking place because Victoria tried to take an under 16 to an age-restricted place expecting special treatment it is because the spa have cancelled her booking rather than allowing her to make alternative arrangements. Whatever has happened in the past is immaterial and I am horrified by the muck-raking and bullying instigated here last night. I, personally, do not condone the online attack on their Facebook page but that is of course up to the individual., I have also requested members of the event to remove any they may have already posted but I have no power to do so. For those who are uninformed breastfeeding at 1 is not only recommended but it aids nutrition, soothing and attachment- for Victoria's child they may or may not have required a feed during this weekend but provision needed to be in place to facilitate this and it would be unfair for the child not to ensure this is possible, this does not mean that a nursing mother must be sequestered away from living a normal adult life for the duration. The rights regarding discrimination is to protect the right of the breastfeeding mother to do so. I won't be returning here to fight the fight but as MNHQ deleted the last thread I have had to start my own to give you my own twopence'th if anybody wants to contact us for more information the email address is [email protected]

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HairyPotter · 14/07/2014 14:07

Well I'm glad she started this thread. It saved me the job of doing it Grin

And now we have some patronising bollocks to get us going in style.

Cheers Mama! Although its poor form to start a thread and not return dont you know.

KissMyFatArse · 14/07/2014 14:07

Muppets. Attention seeking muppets.

SiennaBlake · 14/07/2014 14:07

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LittlePeaPod · 14/07/2014 14:08

Or this could be Tie Dye Fanjango Lady's DM journalist hoping fr some sound bites.. Allegedly she had started speaking to a journalist before pulling the thread on FB..

dont forget to look very very very very sad when they take the pictures

Beavie · 14/07/2014 14:09

It's a shame I never realised as a young single mother that breast feeding gives you a carte Blanche to take your child to adult only venues. Just think of all the nights out clubbing I could have had rather than sitting in on my todd!

Oh wait, it doesn't.

EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:09

*I'm not really sure what the object of these threads are...I presume to put everyone off going....but SOLEY due to the last thread, 2 friends googled it, loved it and have each booked a large group for hen parties...so you've actually managed to give them MORE business ...you should go into promotion...

Brilliant Grin

TheOther12 · 14/07/2014 14:10

At the risk of sticking my head above the parapet, I thought I'd wade in on this one. I am Victoria's husband.

A lot of people's conclusions seem to be based on some significant misinformation, that I'd like to rectify.

  1. Victoria was well aware when she rang that there was an over 16s policy in place and was quite happy to respect that. She rang to see if there happened to be any provision if she was breast feeding, and was advised there was a room available. We were perfectly happy with that (I've seen commented elsewhere that we refused that offer).
  1. The following day, we were telephoned with a message from the Managing Director to say that the booking had been cancelled and that was the end of the matter. No explanation has been provided as to the reason for this other than a somewhat cryptic "you broke the rules" when the MD rang. When asked which rules we had broken, they hung up. The venue coming back and advising that an under 16 could not come into the building would have been quite understandable, the upset was it switching in one moment from "this is fine" to "cancelled booking".
  1. We would have been perfectly understanding that they may not want us to feed on the premises (indeed we were expecting that to be the response to the initial enquiry) and were quite happy for Victoria to nip out to the car to feed there. However as the venue switched their position from it being fine to the cancellation in one fell swoop, there was never even the chance to discuss that with the venue.
  1. There also seem to have been people under the impression that they then spent 24 hours elsewhere without ever feeding. This is also not true. I brought our child to the venue in time for his bedtime feed and indeed he stayed the night there, and I came and collected him in the morning.
  1. People also seem to be under the impression that Victoria started a level of online witch hunt against the venue. We had no intention of anything going up onto open social media at all, especially not until we had achieved a much clearer understanding of our legal position. All that occurred at that time was that she asked advice from a closed Facebook group and one or two close friends. This was then taken up by others, and unfortunately a lot of what has transpired since seems to have occurred due to misinformation on both sides of the debate. We certainly do not condone personal or vitriolic attacks on either the venue or people that disagree with us, but it is beyond our control to remove these posts (we would if we could for certain).

Whether you chose to believe any of this is entirely up to you.

If anyone would like clarification on any part of this, I'll do my best to answer.

londonrach · 14/07/2014 14:10

What comes around goes around. Fate will sort out op Victoria My only concern now is that road. It's hell and one of the reasons I refused to drive to mine head. Will someone think of the children....

HairyPotter · 14/07/2014 14:11

Mary please do not feel sorry for Victoria's mum. Both her mum and dad as well as her dh waded in to all the numerous threads to stick up for her.

Her dh even told me off

Anarchy99 · 14/07/2014 14:11

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seagull70 · 14/07/2014 14:12

Cedar Falls must be laughing their bloody heads off.

Have they responded to their FB posts yet? I don't think they need to by the way - Mrs L and her mummy friends are doing a beautiful job of making themselves look like complete arses and I think Cedar Falls are coming out of it beautifully

Anarchy99 · 14/07/2014 14:12

Oh shit, the husband's weighing in again now...

SiennaBlake · 14/07/2014 14:12

Well, that's rubbish, Mr Victoria. You missed out the part where she posted it to her public business page and asked her followers to head on over to the spa's page. That's not asking for advice from a closed group or a couple of friends.

Anarchy99 · 14/07/2014 14:14

Does anyone want to ask TheOther12 about the designer fanjo pads while he is here? Grin

Nancy66 · 14/07/2014 14:14

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HairyPotter · 14/07/2014 14:14

Oh Mr Victoria, how lovely to see you again.

Now, from what I remember, she posted on her business page and asked people to go over to Cedar Fall and leave reviews. Why was that? Why ask someone to review a place they have not been to if not to stir it up?

EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:15

Well, that's rubbish, Mr Victoria. You missed out the part where she posted it to her public business page and asked her followers to head on over to the spa's page. That's not asking for advice from a closed group or a couple of friends.

Exactly.

LittlePeaPod · 14/07/2014 14:15

TheOther12 if this isn't a breastfeeding issue and its more to do with a miscommunication with regards procedure. Why are they holding a breast feeding sit in, protest? If she knew no under 18s then she's knew breastfeed was out. Why could she not express and you feed baby?

HaroldLloyd · 14/07/2014 14:16

What we need, is Cedar Falls to provide a comment.

Sounds very odd that they hung up the phone without any mention of why they were cancelling the booking, with no threats, no funny business what so ever.

I'd love to hear their side of the story.

SauvignonBlanche · 14/07/2014 14:16

Hilarious!! Grin

GiveTwoSheets · 14/07/2014 14:16

Is someone allowed to do linky on the fb sit in page? being as its not linked to personal fango sparkly dust pads

Anarchy99 · 14/07/2014 14:17

LittlePea Because that wouldn't have allowed her to kick off on social media and get lots of "look at me I am a breastfeeding mother so my rights trump everyone else, no matter how ridiculous" kind of attention.

jacks365 · 14/07/2014 14:17

The following day, we were telephoned with a message from the Managing Director to say that the booking had been cancelled and that was the end of the matter. No explanation has been provided as to the reason for this other than a somewhat cryptic "you broke the rules" when the MD rang. When asked which rules we had broken, they hung up. The venue coming back and advising that an under 16 could not come into the building would have been quite understandable, the upset was it switching in one moment from "this is fine" to "cancelled booking".

If I read that message right then you are making a massive assumption that this is because of breastfeeding when it may simply be that Victoria having her own Facebook business may exclude her from the competition.

HaroldLloyd · 14/07/2014 14:17

I think it got taken down.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 14/07/2014 14:17

Mr Victoria. Why WHY fucking why did your wife phone up to enquire about bringing a baby to an ADULTS ONLY venue?

Did she perhaps think that this rule did not apply to her because she is so special?