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To want to set the record straight about the Cedar Falls Nurse In

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Mamagiraffe · 14/07/2014 13:27

I am organising the peaceful protest OUTSIDE THE GATES of Cedar Falls. The protest is not taking place because Victoria tried to take an under 16 to an age-restricted place expecting special treatment it is because the spa have cancelled her booking rather than allowing her to make alternative arrangements. Whatever has happened in the past is immaterial and I am horrified by the muck-raking and bullying instigated here last night. I, personally, do not condone the online attack on their Facebook page but that is of course up to the individual., I have also requested members of the event to remove any they may have already posted but I have no power to do so. For those who are uninformed breastfeeding at 1 is not only recommended but it aids nutrition, soothing and attachment- for Victoria's child they may or may not have required a feed during this weekend but provision needed to be in place to facilitate this and it would be unfair for the child not to ensure this is possible, this does not mean that a nursing mother must be sequestered away from living a normal adult life for the duration. The rights regarding discrimination is to protect the right of the breastfeeding mother to do so. I won't be returning here to fight the fight but as MNHQ deleted the last thread I have had to start my own to give you my own twopence'th if anybody wants to contact us for more information the email address is [email protected]

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ElleMcFearsome · 14/07/2014 14:27

Just what this thread needed - some mansplaining to make everything clear Grin

TheFairyCaravan · 14/07/2014 14:28

MrVictoria maybe have a look at the CF's page and see what your DW has written, well what she has left.

Here's one post

If you had read the facts, I had said that I rang to ask the policy. I understood the policy (regardless of the legalities) but was told I could feed in a room downstairs. They then cancelled my booking, and when I said, I would go off site to feed, they still refused our booking. The cancellation was made the night before our stay, with very little notice or time to make rearrangements. As I have already said, it was for one bedtime feed, my son was already missing his day times feeds. If people wish to slate me for wanting one day out with my mother, and without my son, fine. My plan was never to take my son into the spa, of course I asked the question, so I could see how to plan. What mother wouldn't?!
If you wish to debate the merits of Breastfeeding fine. But calling me stupid, or making attacks on me personally over this is not on.
As many young mums, I am trying to juggle my children, family life, a business, working life and also trying to be a person in my own right. The Equality Act was written for just this reason.
Ian, I offered to feed off site, walking down the lane to meet them was not a problem for me. But apparently that was not allowed. Yes I asked the question about their policy and yes I pointed out law to them, but asking is not a contravention of any Terms and Conditions, and is not reason to cancel a booking. I have never been to Cf, so could not have seen the signs.

She didn't just ring up and ask, she in her own words pointed out the law to them!

It sounds like to me she made a nuisance of herself, like she has in the past and I personally don't believe her side of the story. It is very noble of you to stand up for her, but she didn't put it on a closed group, she put it on her business wall!

wanttosinglikemarycoughlan · 14/07/2014 14:28

Why should you even ask to feed on the premises, imaging if lots of people did that
She could have left the premises without even having to mention it to anyone
Oh wait, no publicity and outrage that way
I think the last thread should be reinstated
The family asked for it to be pulled then started this!!

VanessaShanesa · 14/07/2014 14:29

Ok have got the gist of it now but who is victoria? Does she sell some sort of sanpro or something? Should I have heard of her?

Nicknacky · 14/07/2014 14:29

Didn't Victorias facebook say they asked about feeding in the car? But Mr Victoria says they didn't ask that.

Stinkle · 14/07/2014 14:30

This whole thing is quite mad

If it's not a breast feeding issue, why hold a feed-in protest?

Cedar Falls do not need to make any provision for breast feeding mothers, it's an adults only venue. No discrimination laws have been broken.

She's annoyed her booking was cancelled, fair enough, but was she rude and aggressive, did she harangue a junior member of staff until he capitulated? I read she'd done this before at an adults only and rode roughshod over that. Perhaps they were concerned that once he was on the premises she'd pull the same stunt.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 14/07/2014 14:30

that is the point right there.
she didnt have to ask if she could walk down and feed off the site. She could have just done it and no one would have known

But no, she had to make a whole production out of it.

Anarchy99 · 14/07/2014 14:30

Vanessa Yes, sparkly designer panty liners, I think!

HaroldLloyd · 14/07/2014 14:31

She did say they has offered to feed in the car.

There is information missing here.

EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:31

Ok have got the gist of it now but who is victoria? Does she sell some sort of sanpro or something? Should I have heard of her?

Victoria is the name of the lady that wanted to bf.

The sanpro is her business.

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vindscreenviper · 14/07/2014 14:31

I don't think those who know should tell you Vanessa or this thread will get zapped like the other.
Rest assured you#re better off not knowing, unless fairy-dusted fanny slings are your thing.

BMW6 · 14/07/2014 14:32

theother12

But if you both knew that there was a strict over 16 policy, why even ask about bf an obviously under 16 yo, as the child would not be allowed inHmm

LittlePeaPod · 14/07/2014 14:32

They are Tie Dye Fair dust coated Fanjango panty liners..

Ahhhh still waiting for an answer to my question Mr Victoria???

TheOther12 · 14/07/2014 14:32

Serious question folks. What's the harm in asking the question? We were quite happy for the response to be "no" to the breastfeeding and to make alternative arrangements to feed off site. It would just have made life a little easier / more comfortable if they were happy to accommodate.

Obviously I cannot speak for anyone else, but if they were cancelling for another reason, I'd expect at least a modicum more of an explanation. Given how it came in direct response to the question being asked, it's certainly not a far fetched conspiracy theory, and it's certainly not like they weren't asked for an explanation, they just refused to answer.

diddl · 14/07/2014 14:33

Look, it was a free win which cannot be taken up due a bfeeding child.

Them's the breaks!

Nicknacky · 14/07/2014 14:34

Vanessa, your confusion as to her business is understandable. I'm still baffled and I have been on her facebook. But there must be a market!

SauvignonBlanche · 14/07/2014 14:34

What's the OP's / Tie Dye Fanjango Lady's website / business?

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EarthWindFire · 14/07/2014 14:34

Right so you don't actually know it is due to bf then!?

So people are writing all sorts if stuff over FB about something that may not have been the case!?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 14/07/2014 14:34

So Mr Victoria
There also seem to have been people under the impression that they then spent 24 hours elsewhere without ever feeding. This is also not true. I brought our child to the venue in time for his bedtime feed and indeed he stayed the night there, and I came and collected him in the morning.

Maybe CF were worried that this would happen and they would end up with a young child on their premises?

Your wife was going to a place where children were not allowed and may be their insurance would have covered your DC being on the site (which is not just the buildings).

Heels99 · 14/07/2014 14:35

She is after all 'struggling to be a person in my own right"

You couldn't make it up!

LoxleyBarrett · 14/07/2014 14:35

Mr V are you willing to acknowledge that your wife started a media witch hunt?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 14/07/2014 14:35

wouldn't not would

TheFairyCaravan · 14/07/2014 14:35

Here's another of your DW's posts on CF's Fb page

  • Additionally, I encouraged people to give their opinions. It is up to them what those opinions are."

Are you still saying she has got nothing to do with this shit storm?

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