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AIBU to think they should have let DD keep the sodding toy?

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captainbarnaclesismyboyfriend · 05/07/2014 16:02

DD is 4. I have been separated from her arrogant manchild father for 2 years. Lots of backstory: his family is incredibly dysfunctional, very toxic mother who smothers her adult children, my ex as a result was extremely difficult to live with, behaviour bordering on EA. He dips in and out of DD's life, leaving havoc in his wake. I'm not perfect but I do think I have tried my absolute best to facilitate contact with ex and his family, often to the detriment of my own plans/happiness.

Ex lives with his parents and his 2 adult siblings. About 4-5 months ago, DD came back from the house with a small cuddly cat toy. She said ex had given it to her. I was pleased at this: he never buys her anything, in fact I used to have to buy DD birthday/Christmas presents 'from him' until I got a grip. I still have to send packed lunches to his house when she visits

DD is very attached to this toy. She sleeps with it every night and takes it everywhere with her. She makes a lot of the fact that 'her Daddy got her it and it's her favourite toy in the world'

DD sees ex on average once a month, or every 6 weeks. Yesterday she spent the afternoon with ex and his family. When he dropped her home, she was sobbing- really hysterical, heartbroken sobs. I naturally asked ex what was wrong. He informed me that his sister (aged 25) had decided to take 'her' cat toy back from DD. This was news to me. Nobody had ever mentioned the cat toy was anything other than a gift bought for DD by my ex.

Apparently it was in fact a birthday present from the sister's friend when she was 18 or so. The sister had 'lent' it to DD to play with, but apparently DD was not supposed to take it home and keep it. Yesterday the sister spotted DD with it. and decided she wanted the toy back. So she took it from DD who naturally had a complete meltdown

I was very short with my ex and said 'for god's sake, she is 25, could she not just let the poor child keep the toy, your sister hasn't missed it in months'

Ex just shrugged and said 'but it is HER (sister's) toy. It was never DD's.'

DD sobbed and howled until bedtime, then she woke sobbing in the middle of the night saying she missed her cat. I wanted to tear ex and his whole family apart. I have rarely seen my DD so inconsolable

I told my lovely, lovely friend all about it, and bless her, this morning she drove 30 miles to her parent's house to get the toy lamb that she has had from she was DD's age. She came straight to my house afterwards, and gave DD the lamb, along with a note asking her to take adopt it, as Woolly has been alone in the attic for ages, with no little girl to cuddle. This seems to have worked quite well (friend was given bottle of wine and cake for her troublesGrin) but I am still spitting with rage. I can't believe ex and his family. This is just another example of how they don't give a damn about DD and her feelings, they don't even see her as a child who needs nurtured and occasionally indulged.

Sorry for the rant. Am I BU and overreacting? I know it's possible the toy cat had a lot of sentimental value for exSIL but honestly I doubt it. It's not a particularly special/unusual toy (one of those you get in Toys R Us with the sort of red tags hanging from their ear?) and she doesn't even speak to the friend who gave her it!

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Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 22:53

There are some very cold hearted people on here. That toy was a symbol of her fathers 'love' it was mire to her than just a toy. This child is emotionally damaged by her father, he dies not give her a thing, but clutches onto this little toy he 'gave' to her as a symbol of his 'love' for her. How sad. The whole family sound fucked up! I certainly would nit facilitate anymore contact anymore. To treat a young child like this is disgusting!

All that arsehole can do is shug and say it's his sisters toy, it was never DD is apoealling! So get her some things you stupid knob! She can do better without him, he does not deserve contact, he's going to mess up her life. Look out for dd and cut them loose!

2rebecca · 05/07/2014 22:58

I agree that the father could easily have made things much better by taking his daughter out and choosing a toy for her that then would really be from him and she gets to choose it and it's new not someone else's toy. Small soft toys are fairly cheap. It seems cruel not to sort out a replacement that could have "a present from my dad" value.

areyoumymother · 05/07/2014 22:59

Yes of course they should have allowed her to keep it when it meant so much to her. I wonder if they know her very well, though? Maybe they misinterpreted her upset as just 'temper' and didn't understand the significance of the toy? They sound emotionally inept enough.

I don't think this is a relationship that's going to be good for your DD at all. Your ex sounds one tiny rung of the ladder up from 'no dad' at best. Can you meet him regularly for half an hour to discuss parenting strategies, make him aware of the issues around your DD's feelings towards him, get him invested and subtly suggest how they could bond? That or change your phone number and find a nice partner who has always wanted a daughter...

I feel so sorry for your DD. Thank goodness she has you and her godmother. Flowers

macdoodle · 05/07/2014 23:02

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sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 05/07/2014 23:10

I am slave is there any need to call me a bitch on wheels for having a slightly different view? Seriously?

macdoodle · 05/07/2014 23:14

Calling a distraught 4yr old a spoilt brat is pretty bitchy IMO, yes.

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 05/07/2014 23:17

I didn't say any such thing

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 05/07/2014 23:20

just can't believe he would protect his sister's interests over his young daughter's. sounds like your DD is better off with as little contact as possible.

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 05/07/2014 23:22

It's his fault entirely for giving something away that wasn't his to give. That makes him an arsehole and a shit and whatever else has been said about his sister on here. It may sound petty and nasty but nobody knows what the toy meant to her

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:23

I agree mac, he made no effort to console or make it up to dd. No concept of putting his dd above himself. Op having to send in food when he should be providing, is shameful. Any decent dad would have taken her to a shop to puck something special from him, be it a £5 toy if something, oh no, he shrugs his inept shoulders and does not care less.

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:24

I would not want my child to have contact with someone who cares so little for her!

fifi669 · 05/07/2014 23:25

For me.... It was SIL toy. Hers to give away or not. She wanted to keep it. End of story. She could have all sorts of memories attached to it even if she was 18 when she got it. She could have cried into it on hearing bad news, cuddled it when breaking up with an ex, it could remind her of happier times. You don't know and it's not relevant.

Your ex however..... Jesus wept. He let DD believe it was hers. Knew all along SIL hadn't given the toy but let DD grow attached to it? I guess he just hoped one of them would forget about it. Tool.

The most devastating bit is how much DD loves her dad. A small second hand toy that she cuddles and carries around because her daddy gave it to her. So happy and proud. As someone mentioned, a physical symbol to her of his love. Then snatched away? Devastating. The imagery in my head has me welling up. Why on earth couldn't he just speak to her and say it was borrowed but that daddy and DD are going to go on a special trip to build a bear or something to choose one extra special? I reserve all my venom for your useless ex on this one.

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:25

Yes if I were op I would arrange to meet him and let it rip, tell him some home truths.

IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 05/07/2014 23:29

OP your post has broken my heart! Your poor DD, how incredibly cruel of your SIL to take it off her. I have sentimental toys that my nieces and nephews have taken to and I've let them have them because I love that they look at it and think "Aunty Chippy gave me that".

Also only in MN could a 4 year old having her favourite toy that she can't live without taken off her be called spoiled Hmm

Your friend sounds awesome, what a lovely idea! I hope your DD is OK, her dad sounds like a prize arse. My advice is to stop sticking your neck out for him, he's not worth it and your DD will one day see it for herself if he's not careful xx

SaucyJack · 05/07/2014 23:29

I don't think it's really the SIL who's the arsehole here. She was obviously ok with lending your DD the cat for a bit, but wanted it back at some point before it was gone for good. Seems quite reasonable to me.

The problem is your cunt of an ex never showing your DD real affection. She hasn't lost a token of her father's love, because he never gave her one in the first place. Poor little kid.

Could you maybe buy a new teddy for him to give to her next time?

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 05/07/2014 23:31

Also only in MN could a 4 year old having her favourite toy that she can't live without taken off her be called spoiled

this. amazing how determined people can be to see bad behaviour where there is none. her so called auntie may not have been 'wrong' but let's face it, most of us wouldn't do this to our nieces/nephews, surely. and yes, her dad is an absolute shit.

Pico2 · 05/07/2014 23:34

Do you have enough details of it or a photo so that we might be able to hunt out a replacement? I've been amazed by the replacements that have been located by MNetters.

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:35

Why should op buy a teddy for arsehole ex to give, he should be buying it, and I would bloody well tell him. I would take dd to build a bear and have a special teddy made from mummy. It seems like contact with man is more harmful than good, as he die sent give a shit!

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:42

Primark you are just something aren't you! I think this little girl realises her 'dad' sues not get her much, so cherishes something she thinks is given to her by her dad. Op did not say she took it fgs she found out it was leant to her by her auntie!

IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 05/07/2014 23:42

PS I think we've found Katie Hopkins MN username

VampyreofTimeandMemory · 05/07/2014 23:42

he should but presumably, OP would just do anything to make her DD that happy again.

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:44

Her dad made her believe it was from him and did not correct her aging no it's sisters she leant it to you. What a prize arsehole!

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:45

I think dd will come to the realisation soon enough what a deadbeat her 'dad' is, all op can do is be there fir her!

Iswallowedawatermelon · 05/07/2014 23:47

:( :(

This is sad. The sil should have never let her take it home with her to start with if she was going to ask for it back. Very unfair.

I'm glad your dd has accepted wooly as a replacement.

Aeroflotgirl · 05/07/2014 23:51

I read things like this and feel,so Sad I only had my dad for 11 years of my life before he died of cancer. The early memories of him taking me to hamleys to buy toys, taking me for walks, days out, ice creams. Driving me on a weekend to York when he was really sick, as school would not let me go, will last a lifetime. What has thus poor little girl got Sad