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To think whoever organised this should be prosecuted?

444 replies

curiousgeorgie · 04/07/2014 12:12

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2679321/Mayor-demands-police-investigation-British-girl-filmed-performing-sex-act-24-men-two-minutes-win-3euro-bottle-Cava-Magaluf-bar.html

Apologies for the daily mail link and apologies if its already been done, I did have a quick look and couldn't see anything.

An old work friend posted the video of this on Facebook last night and it is horrendous... (And this absolutely doesn't excuse it) but she thought she was doing it for a holiday, but it turned out to be for a drink.

I feel so sorry for her parents (and for her actually)..

I think the rep who organised this 'game' should face prosecution...

OP posts:
Mintyy · 04/07/2014 17:30

"If a man had gone round the room undressing 24 men and performing oral sex on each one, would we be calling him a victim? would we be saying bthe women were equally to blame ? I think not."

Not grasping your point her sixlittleblighters. And also where are the women in that scenario?

LastTango · 04/07/2014 17:32

What about the 24 men taking responsibility and saying no and stopping the others?

How niave ^^ !! The lads GO over there for as much sex as they can get in whatever form.............and most openly admit it. Even on Sun Sex and Suspicious parents the four lads were openly admitting to the BBC that they wanted as much 'sausage' as they could with whoever was willing to give it.

waterducksback · 04/07/2014 17:35

I feel sorry for the boys as well... People that watched the film said that some were trying to bat her hands away.
Seems like she was sexually assaulting these young men
They were obviously drunk as well, so we're also taken advantage of - people need to remember that.

If it were a row of women, and a man was going from woman to woman, giving them oral sex, everybody would say that they were taken advantage of. It's no different.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/07/2014 17:37

Ah we must bow to your great wisdom, Last Tango, afterall you're watching of reality TV shows clearly makes you the great expert on sexual behavior.

LastTango · 04/07/2014 17:40

Ah we must bow to your great wisdom, Last Tango, afterall you're watching of reality TV shows clearly makes you the great expert on sexual behavior.

Don't be so fucking stupid John - this is what's shown on the BBC.........I'll leave up to your imagination what goes on behind closed doors. And don't pick on me because you're angry.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/07/2014 17:45

You're calling people naive, as if they genuinely don't know people want to have a lot of sex on holiday.
I get that, really I do.

I'm not angry or naive.

sixlittleblighters · 04/07/2014 17:48

lasttango and minty
I meant to say 'if a man had gone round the room undressing 24 women and performing oral sex on them '
women not men !! doh!!*

SolidGoldBrass · 04/07/2014 17:48

I'm with Tethersend here - itis shameful to trick someone into performing sex acts when your intention is to humiliate that person. It's really shameful to single out one individual from a club/party/social scene where lots of people get drunk and engage in performance sex they might regret a bit, and try to turn that individual into a hate figure. There's nothing wrong with having 24 partners in one night if everyone's consenting. There's nothing really wrong with gettting drunk and silly from time to time as long as you don't become violent towards others.

THis should NOT be national news. It isn't really anyone else's business. But the tabloids won't be happy until they've hounded her into a suicide attempt or rehab.

LastTango · 04/07/2014 17:50

You're calling people naive, as if they genuinely don't know people want to have a lot of sex on holiday. I get that, really I do.

So why are you being snidy with me John? I don't get it !

CornChips · 04/07/2014 18:02

Solid said exactly what I am thinking but cannot articulate properly.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/07/2014 18:09

Sorry last tango, I'm quite a snidey poster, it's not personal.

I just can't understand why a young drunk woman is being demonized and everyone else involved is getting away with it. Or what sgb said.

MrsBoldon · 04/07/2014 18:21

I completely agree that she should not be demonised.

She made a mistake whilst (possibly) drunk and on holiday - many people have done it and many more will in the future.

It's disgraceful that it was filmed and distribute d. If I'm honest I think it's a disgrace it happened at all but I'm not going to pass judgement on her or any of the men involved.

But some people were saying she was raped. That's why lot's of people were posting to say they disagreed with that.

TheFairyCaravan · 04/07/2014 18:27

Not all lads go on these sort of holidays for as much sex as they can get, FFS!

DS1 went to Malia with his mates as a blowout at the end of A levels. They went to party. He is disgusted by the behaviour that has gone on in this instance, he said he would not have encouraged his friends and would have walked out of the club.

MostWicked · 04/07/2014 18:27

Yes, of course you can give conditional consent to sex - if you have sex and agree that the man should wear a condom and he takes it off and continues then it becomes rape
Then at the point when he removed the condom, she withdrew her consent.
She can't consent to the whole act, then change her mind afterwards.
In this case, she performed the act herself, she can't claim afterwards that she didn't want to.

MostWicked no - I am commenting the focus of the event was to make her a laughing stock and sexually humiliate her.
She humiliated herself. She was not falling down drunk. She chose to take part and she very actively participated.

tethersend In the example you gave, the woman was threatened into going along with sex. That is not consent.

GarlicJulyKit Your example is a business contract. It would be a civil case of breach of contract, not criminal. Maybe this girl should take out a civil case against the bar for breach of contract.

Isn't there a law you can't film someone without their consent?
No, not when you are in a public place.

I have seen the video. She didn't just consent, she was positively enthusiastic, including one man who seemed reluctant and took some persuading. She was definitely sober enough to consent and for everyone else participating, to believe that she was consenting. she certainly wasn't assaulted or under threat, she was having fun. May not be my or your idea of fun, but it would seem to be hers.

TucsonGirl · 04/07/2014 18:35

Going on holiday to have sex when your young is one thing but this really wasn't sex, or sexy, just seedy and depressing. There's nothing wrong with young people wanting to cop off with the opposite sex, while on holiday, even with a different partner every night but this wasn't that.

shakethetree · 04/07/2014 18:40

So she wasn't drunk & was actually enjoying it?

I feel sorry for the reluctant men. What a disgusting woman.

MerdeAlor · 04/07/2014 18:40

Well said solidgoldbrass I completely agree.
It is shameful to trick someone into doing this. I just watched this video and I was horrified. This will ruin her life. I guess club promoters and who ever put it on line don't think about that or care. So sad.

SignYourName · 04/07/2014 18:40

Exactly what SolidGold said.

TheFairyCaravan · 04/07/2014 18:44

SolidGold DS1 said the next thing will be that she will have killed herself due to being hounded over this. Her name is already over social media, apparently the video has been sent to her parents. It's all very sad for her.

BarbarianMum · 04/07/2014 18:52

I think having oral sex with 24 strangers in a bar is the epitome of disgusting tbh. Regardless of the genders of the people involved.

If this is sexual liberation I'll stay a buttoned up old prude thank you.

Softlysoftlycatchymonkey · 04/07/2014 18:52

Tricked in to sucking 24 people off in front of a braying crowd for a holiday? Really?

Drink/holiday?

She is a victim of extreme low self esteem and self worth.

They all behaved terribly.

BarbarianMum · 04/07/2014 18:53

Having said which I don't think it should be filmed, or distributed or that there is any need for anybody to be identified.

BarbarianMum · 04/07/2014 18:55

And letting a stranger give you oral sex in a bar is no better.

Deverethemuzzler · 04/07/2014 18:56

Who cares if its not illegal
who cares if she was drunk or sober
who cares if she was going for it.

What is appalling is that she was used in this way. To be filmed and gawped at and her life ruined.

She was stupid.

She doesn't deserve this treatment.

All this 'if it was a man you wouldn't be....'

If it was a man it wouldn't have happened in this way! Our society is not interested in judging and humiliating men for having stupid sex.

We prefer to get our kicks by encouraging young men to drink themselves to death.

fifi669 · 04/07/2014 19:43

Personally I just think it's rough. If she'd given a blow job I don't think there'd be any coverage, but 24? It's not my idea of fun but each to their own.

She consented to the act. The men consented. What she didn't want was for people to know. That's a hell of a hangover she's got now.

I think why she's been the one that's focused on isn't about sexism but rather she was the one willing to have all these sexual partners within a few minutes. I'm sure if it had been a gay club and a man had done the same there'd be similar questions about the morality but without the questioning of consent.

The papers don't want to see anyone hounded into suicide etc, that's just ridiculous.

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