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AIBU?

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to dislike being physical with dc and to think words should be enough?

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NeeNawNora · 21/06/2014 23:12

I am the stricter of the two of us yet am becoming increasingly frustrated with dp having to be physical in some way with our dc in order to get them to do as he's asked. I don't mean smacking or hurting them but restraining or physically removing things. I don't think this is acceptable as ultimately he's using his strength to overpower them and get his way but still has no control.

For example, dd was climbing on a gate today. He told her to get down, she said it's ok I'm nearly over. He said 'no, get down now' and she continued climbing over. He put an arm round her waist and used the other hand to peel her fingers off before dumping her down and her complaining she could of done it/he's hurt her leg/she's got a splinter etc. I didn't see the need for her to get off (he was impatient to open it to go through) because I like the dc being able to climb and explore when appropriate, but if I had wanted her to I'd have said 'dd, please get down because [insert reason]' and she would mostly likely have listened. If she hadn't I'd have reminded her that there are consequences for not listening and she definitely would've listened.

Similarly tonight, younger dd and ds were racing to get a ball and ds got it first the first time so dp told him to let dd get it first next time. Ds still got it first and dp wrestled it off him rather than just repeat his request. I would've reiterated what I'd asked and then if he still didn't listen I'd have given ds a warning that if he still didn't listen and play/share nicely then he wouldn't be able to play at all.

I just think all the physicality is heavy handed and shows a lack of patience and control. Dp thinks I'm too soft but ultimately the dc listen to me and not him and my way causes less upset. Aibu to think being physical is unnecessary or am I being too soft?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 22/06/2014 00:58

I'll repeat my question, because I really want to know the answer:

OP, why did you post on AIBU when you are so very very sure that you are not? Why?

Caff2 · 22/06/2014 00:58

I guess what I'm saying is I think you need to talk and work together rather than criticising him or undermining him - maybe you could work TOGETHER and learn from each other's techniques?

softlysoftly · 22/06/2014 00:59

Oh and sidenote he is either very rough and you need to consider leaving him as abusive or Your kids are playing pity party and there is fuck all wrong with them.

An 8 year old needing comforting for 30mins over a grab to avoid nettles indeed, jesus wept.

EatShitDerek · 22/06/2014 00:59

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NeeNawNora · 22/06/2014 01:01

I just wouldn't allow situations to arise like them being unattended or not holding hands near roads in tgethe first place when younger. Similarly with a hot radiator I would've forewarned rather than waited for them to almost burn themselves. I may have removed toys but with explanation and a request to hand it over first, not just 'give me it now' then snatch.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 22/06/2014 01:01

This is priceless

Caff2 · 22/06/2014 01:02

When DS1 was bitten by DS2, I can assure you that the first thing he said was "No" and physically removed him from his arm, with some help from me, as we didn't think that a gentle chat/lengthy explanation at the expense of DS1's arm having a chunk taken out of it was the best method... Grin

XiCi · 22/06/2014 01:02

I think the answer to that where you is that she expected everyone to agree what a twat her husband is but it hasn't quite worked out that way!

EatShitDerek · 22/06/2014 01:04

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Caff2 · 22/06/2014 01:04

But the Op probably has lightning reactions and the gift of foresight so would have explained BEFORE the bite, I guess...

NeeNawNora · 22/06/2014 01:05

softly but don't you see this is why they don't 'get' him? Of course ds didn't need consoling for 30 mins over nettle stings. In my version he wouldn't have complained/would've been told he should've listened and he wouldn't be in this situation and that'd be the end of it. Whereas demanding immediate response by physical restraint then spending thirty mins negotiating continuing walking is confusing.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 22/06/2014 01:06

Well, since there's no point trying to talk to someone with their fingers in their ears singing 'la, la, la', I'm off to bed. Rolling my eyes at OP as I go and feeling sorry for her DP and all 5 DC

softlysoftly · 22/06/2014 01:08

And none of your DC ever didn't want to hold hands?

I'd be concerned about how biddable your children all are from a very young age just to turn into ODD childrenfor DH. that's just weird.

NeeNawNora · 22/06/2014 01:09

Caff I haven't had any experience of biters and so can't really comment.

Scarlett so how do I answer when I've said to dc 'dad wouldn't have pushed you over if you'd minded out the way when he'd asked you to' and they say 'so why's it ok for him to push us but not for us to push others?'

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EatShitDerek · 22/06/2014 01:11

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NeeNawNora · 22/06/2014 01:13

softly it'd be quite simply 'let's hold hands please because of X' if there was a no it'd be 'we need to hold hands or otherwise I'll have to put you in pushchair/pick you up.' If still no, then I'd do just that. The difference is they'd know what to expect and it would be consistent. Not one day 'dd why don't you try and climb the gate?' then the next 'get off now' and physical removal.

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softlysoftly · 22/06/2014 01:15

I'm not saying your DHs way is perfect either but in actuality I think if you look at how you got to this bit of parenting you probably did take physical action so to berate your DH doing the same is contradictory.

Yes he could have said "stop there is nettles" rather than just "stop". But I see nothing wrong with him physically stopping him hurting himself. Then he shouldn't have consoled for 30m or given in to carrying DD.

But just because his way could improve in aspects doesn't make yours right either which is what you are convinced of and kidding yourself if you think your DC sdon't see it therefore undermining him.

zzzzz · 22/06/2014 01:17

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Mrsjayy · 22/06/2014 01:17

His dad didnt push him to make him fall he didnt want him going in nettles you needec to say well you were warned not to do it, children need to realise that they are not equa, to adults in situations like this

Sillylass79 · 22/06/2014 01:17

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softlysoftly · 22/06/2014 01:18

Right so you DID use physical action!!! You asked, told, did. Like most of us.

So your issue isn't "DH is physical" it's actually DH isn't consistent and doesn't ask/give warnings first.

In which case I would have agreed with you.

Caff2 · 22/06/2014 01:36

Well, I guess you're lucky to have no experience of a biter, as I was with DS1... but how would you have dealt with it if one of yours DID go a bit bitey for a few weeks?

Caff2 · 22/06/2014 01:40

Oh - missed posts - what softly said!

Although I still think you sound very disdainful towards your DP. Who you chose to have 5 children with...

ComposHat · 22/06/2014 02:01

I just wouldn't allow situations to arise like them being unattended or not holding hands near roads in tgethe first place when younger. Similarly with a hot radiator I would've forewarned rather than waited for them to almost burn themselves

Aye right and the RAF's Pig aerobatics squadron are doing loop the friggin loops outside my bedroom window.

PrincessBabyCat · 22/06/2014 05:37

if I had wanted her to I'd have said 'dd, please get down because [insert reason]' and she would mostly likely have listened.

Grin Denial is an ugly thing.