AIBU to not want dogs pissing on my new wall?

[uptheauntie]

I'll caveat this by saying I am not a dog owner.

We have had a lovely white rendered wall built in our front garden. I cannot tell you how many dog owners I have seen pause at our wall to all their dogs to cock a leg and piss down it. Which is leaving marks! It is not rocket science that if you pour yellow piss down a white wall it will stain.

AIBU for this to piss me off? I'm not blaming the dogs, but couldn't the owners tug them on! It's getting to the stage I thinking of putting up a sign or banging on the window when I see it!

Well, I tried.

Not really. You listed a load of things about how dog lovers are wrong. Not really live and let live.

I know not everyone likes my dog. That's why he is on a lead at all times when outside of the house - I can not guarantee he won't jump up or come back when called so he doesn't get the chance.

Even I can't stop him weeing on walls given the pavements aren't that wide. I do stop him going onto someone's property.

Oh, trust me, I know some people "really don't like" my dog. I'm battered over the head with this viewpoint on every dog-related thread on here. There's always a Rommel or similar who pipes up with their "ban them all" stance.

I keep my dog away from strangers. I get up at 5.45am every morning to walk him when it's quiet. He doesn't bother about other people when off lead, he's happy to potter along beside me or focus on fetching his toy and he's always on-lead on streets, pavements etc. I pick up after him when he poos, I don't let him wander onto other people's driveways, gardens etc. I don't expect everyone to love him - in fact I'd rather other people kept their children away from him as, tolerant though he is, they don't always know how to behave around dogs and I'd rather not stress him out. My previous dog was a PAT (Pets as Therapy) dog and actively brought pleasure to ill and elderly people who couldn't have a dog of their own for various reasons.

The one thing I can't do is control my dog's bladder. I encourage him to pee in our garden before we set off for our walk and at least 50% of the time he does, but if he isn't ready to "go" you can't force it!

Some people simply won't be happy until all pets are banned, but having seen the benefits they bring - the scientifically proven health benefits, the good qualities children who have grown up with pets develop such as compassion for those more vulnerable than themselves, a sense of responsibility etc - you'll forgive me for hoping that day never comes.

evalyn I don't agree either. I keep my dog on a lead, pick up poo, don't let her run up to people, don't let her bark excessively, and don't let her on private property. You've made it obvious you hate pets, but WHY for Christ's sake? Badly behaved dogs and owners annoy me too and everybody else, but what about the rest of us with friendly,quiet, well behaved pets? What the hell have we ever done to you?!
It reminds me of threads where people hate children and don't want to be exposed to them, ever. Well, pets are part of life, why not tolerate it nicely, and just be rude to the ill mannered ones?

Live and let live eh?

My dog is on a lead when around other people. I clean up after him. He is shut out of certain rooms if strangers or people who don't like him come over. He barks within our double glazed house.

I'm not sure how else I can own a dog and still live within your rules

So we're good evalyn

I can only assume some people only come into contact with animals in a very controlled, pets-only sort of way, because round where I live (country village) you could ban all the dogs but still have to deal daily with all the wildlife that we, you know, share the planet with.

I agree kitchen. I know loads of people who will kill any living creature that dares to enter their sacred property- mice, spiders, daddy long legs. I really don't know why people have such a problem with animals.

"Now, what about this dog-lovers v non-dog-lovers?" etc etc etc

I could be totally out here, but it occurs to me that the issue is not even close to being as simple as dog-lovers v non-dog-lovers.
In bucking against the effects of how dogs are kept in modern society (or even bucking against keeping dogs at all), you are pretty much destined to come up hard against an immovable force, because what you are bucking against isn't an emotional preference, it's a state of evolution.

Recent dating evidence shows first domestication (of dogs) as early as 33,000 years ago (hitherto thought to be maybe half that, I understand).
That evidence suggests it's possibly domestication already started to happen while Homo sapiens Neandertalensis was still around (albeit that he was likely on the way out).
Certainly seems to be accepted that there was domestication of dogs during Homo sapiens Cro-Magnon's reign, and our furry friends were all over the place by the time Homo sapiens sapiens was setting up home.

Seems to me that we have only had white walls for them to piss on for a heart beat of that time.

Live and let live! Brilliant idea. Lets all try it. I will live with a dog in my life and others can live without them! My dog will be fed, walked, cared for by me, and no-one else has to have anything to do with him. Great! My dog doesn't approach strangers, by and large he isn't interested unless they have a dog with them, I don't leash him all the time but he's either running about in fields or he's stuck to my heel like glue because he's obedient. He does pee on things - usually posts, trees, corners of walls etc but they tend to be venerable old walls that look as if they've seen a bit of use and pee not boring, bland newly-painted ones! Just the nicely ripely doggy ones.

Evelyn, I am 100% aware that some people don't liked dog. How could I not be? I take him out in the full expectation that he will come across someone who thinks of him as just a noisy hairy shit machine. So I keep him under control and try to keep him as a low-impact nuisance. If people still object what else can I do? I don't expect you to like him, I do expect you will tolerate him because unless he/I break the rules you have no choice. Just as I have no choice over people's noisy music, excessive perfume use, BO, middle-lane hoggers and lairy drunks. That is life. Live, as you say, and let live.

Evalyn, I think you've got it spot-on.

For what it's worth, I think it's rude to let your dog urinate on people's walls; if you have any understanding of your dog's behaviour, it is pretty obvious when they want to have a wee (or at least it was to us back in the days when we had dogs).

No, not pretty obvious when they want to wee - mine just cocks his leg and starts weeing - by the time I could react (perhaps by yanking on his lead and pulling him off his 3 legs, do you suggest ) he has already started. so may as well finish.

And when you had dogs, how exactly did YOU stop them weeing against anything? Do tell.....

Well if I see something that I think my dog shouldn't wee against, I don't let them get close enough!!

And if a pavement is narrow, you could momentarily walk the dog the other side of you!

Then he will pee against the parked cars.......

But at least that isn't as obvious as against a white wall!!

I have realised from this that I live in an area of wide pavements!