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to think the 'common law/freeman on the land' thing is a whole load of bollocks?

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qwertypop · 01/06/2014 20:10

I've come across a few people over the last few years that take it very seriously and bang on at length about how the police and courts have no authority over them as they are self declared 'freemen'. Something to do with common law being the only true law in Britain, I think? And not having to wear bike helmets or pay for TV licenses or repay your debts also seem important to the ones I've had the dubious pleasure of meeting.

A couple I met at the weekend have taken the biscuit though and not registered their baby's birth because apparently this will mean said baby grows up to be a 'freeman' (she's actually a girl but the term appears to be freeman anyway). They believe quite firmly that to register her birth will mean that the law assumes her and her name (which is a fucking corker, of course) are one and the same and that only by NOT registering her birth can she be free to be a human being. Quite what this actually means is a mystery to me and tbh the mumbo jumbo they gave me by way of an answer leads me to suspect they don't really know either Hmm

I've tried to read up on it but all the info I can find is written in a style you'd expect of an paranoid, delusional, and possibly hallucinating chimpanzee let loose with a legal dictionary.

So AIBU to think this is bollocky woo of the most fucking ridiculous type? Or is someone going to come along and actually enlighten me as to wtf its all about, preferably in plain English with no pseudo-legalese?

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RandomNPC · 03/03/2015 09:57

Hey, we've caught another one!

Koalafications · 03/03/2015 19:39

Grin RandomNPC

judgedeath · 13/07/2015 20:06

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reredos1 · 13/07/2015 20:14

Freeman on the land is a load of horse apples.

And we can spell stupid

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 13/07/2015 20:24

And apply punctuation :)

ghostyslovesheep · 13/07/2015 20:29

wow I am a 'stuped fuck wit'

cool Grin

still not stupid enough to believe this 'freeman' horse shit - numb nuggets

DoraGora · 13/07/2015 20:36

A truly depressing end to an already depressing day! I'd lived a life of total ignorance of this bollocks, and wish it could have continued for a little while longer. Incidentally, there do seem to be a couple of women included in the successes and failures list on the rational wiki. So, maybe women aren't completely immune. Perhaps they just talk less.

StatisticallyChallenged · 13/07/2015 21:27

Brilliant thread. I'm afraid I'm on Team Stuped Fucks though. I like punctuation too much to be a freeman.

MrsHathaway · 13/07/2015 21:51

I've just spent two or three hours wandering through this thread. Remarkable.

It's a similar argument to when people say "Britain is a totally equal country - look at these laws" and all the people currently being illegally discriminated against say "um..."

Only inside-out.

UncertainSmile · 13/07/2015 21:53

It's good to see this thread again! Reminds me of when I was RandomNPC.

reredos1 · 13/07/2015 22:45

Isn't it getting a court that you don't believe exists to make an order that makes everyone else agree with you?

to add to the history stuff - in Anglo Saxon times those who chose to live outside the law, those who refused to obey the orders of the king as written down in the law codes, 'let them bear a wolf's head' ie let them be killed on sight.

And I bet even that lot had a better chance of spelling 'stupid'.

1Ubuntu · 02/08/2015 17:30

I cannot believe what I am reading hereConfused

& this site is called 'mums'net?!Confused
Going by the comments I have read in this thread that has to b sum kinda joke.

It reads more like trollnet.

That's inversion for u, however, I shall reserve judgement other than for this partcular thread as this may not b a sincere representation just a little hijacking &/or exception to the rule.

If there are any humans, let alone mothers, with logic, common sense, heart & conscience that have any links to a sincere, noble discussion regarding the subject of laws & liberty in real terms, meaning they comprehend the difference btwn reality & fantasy & adhere to & conduct themselves as much as possible in reality & comprehend the difference btwn language & pseudo language such as 'legal' or 'legalese', I would very much appreciate if u would share them with me pleaseSmile

Or if u would like to discuss on here or feel u can advise that would b very much appreciated alsoSmile

U'd think if u were gna find a place of humanity, heart & conscience it would b here, not necessarily logic or common sense but that's ok as long as u have heart & conscience.

Unfortunately it seems there's alot of neither here Sad

Whats not ok is someone lacking in intelligence, logic & common sense ridiculing those that aren't because of their lack of heart & conscience aswell as their lack of logic & common sense!Hmm

Sounds like some people aren't just having their stupid cake & eating it, they'r baking it too!

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 02/08/2015 17:46

Brilliant! We've got another one.

I love it when people bump this thread.

DioneTheDiabolist · 02/08/2015 17:50

1Ubuntu, this thread is completely representative of Mumsnet. Complete with rambling, nonsensical posts from new members. TBH, I don't think you'd like it here.

ghostyslovesheep · 02/08/2015 17:57

not a clue - sorry - I can't make head nor tail of your post but thanks for bumping this very funny year old thread again Grin

reredos1 · 02/08/2015 18:04

1Ubunti - I've just read your post three times. It still doesn't make sense. Could you summarise?

fastdaytears · 02/08/2015 18:06

1Ubuntu thank you for bringing this amazing thread of crazy to my attention. Well done with learning the ampersand. Good luck with the rest of the English language.

1Ubuntu · 02/08/2015 18:09

DioneTheDiabolist

So was the name 'mumsnet' always meant to b ironic & if so any ideas why? To undermine mothers is the only 1 that springs to mind right now. Or has the site just been hijacked by a sea of trolls?

1Ubuntu · 02/08/2015 18:14

reredos1, I doubt summarising will help u then.

If u'd like to say which words or sentences u don't understand tho I may clarify for u Smile

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 02/08/2015 18:18

Now, now. If you start suggesting the site has been hijacked by a sea of trolls, someone will be along to press the big red button.

No-one could possibly comment on that.

1Ubuntu · 02/08/2015 18:27

RafalsTheKingOfClay

So they would b offended by my asking if the site has been hijacked by trolls as oppose to being a trollsite originally in itself as expressed by 'this thread is completely representative of Mumsnet'?! How strange lol!

ghostyslovesheep · 02/08/2015 18:30

U'd think if u were gna find a place of humanity, heart & conscience it would b here, not necessarily logic or common sense but that's ok as long as u have heart & conscience

try that for starters

DioneTheDiabolist · 02/08/2015 18:30

So was the name 'mumsnet' always meant to be ironic
Yes.
& if so any ideas why?
Because JustineMN vetoed "Cuntsnet" as her granny would have went mad.

VagelinaJolie · 02/08/2015 18:31

Oh is it that time again?
I like sea of trolls (though they don't live in the sea, that's mermaids) fits nicely with nest of vipers.
And it gets your point across much more cogently if you don't use text speak. People won't automatically think you are an idiot.

fastdaytears · 02/08/2015 18:33

Dione Grin