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to think the 'common law/freeman on the land' thing is a whole load of bollocks?

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qwertypop · 01/06/2014 20:10

I've come across a few people over the last few years that take it very seriously and bang on at length about how the police and courts have no authority over them as they are self declared 'freemen'. Something to do with common law being the only true law in Britain, I think? And not having to wear bike helmets or pay for TV licenses or repay your debts also seem important to the ones I've had the dubious pleasure of meeting.

A couple I met at the weekend have taken the biscuit though and not registered their baby's birth because apparently this will mean said baby grows up to be a 'freeman' (she's actually a girl but the term appears to be freeman anyway). They believe quite firmly that to register her birth will mean that the law assumes her and her name (which is a fucking corker, of course) are one and the same and that only by NOT registering her birth can she be free to be a human being. Quite what this actually means is a mystery to me and tbh the mumbo jumbo they gave me by way of an answer leads me to suspect they don't really know either Hmm

I've tried to read up on it but all the info I can find is written in a style you'd expect of an paranoid, delusional, and possibly hallucinating chimpanzee let loose with a legal dictionary.

So AIBU to think this is bollocky woo of the most fucking ridiculous type? Or is someone going to come along and actually enlighten me as to wtf its all about, preferably in plain English with no pseudo-legalese?

OP posts:
RandomNPC · 19/01/2015 23:25

He did, Viva, but he was rumbled by MNHQ.

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:27

well im not suprised you get caught when you put "22" after the banned user id.

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:30

i just class it as idiots guide to law (but prepare a bag for a stay @h.m pleasure)

atticusclaw · 19/01/2015 23:32

wtaylor can I just say that you are hilarious and have brightened up my evening. I am picturing you sat in your luxury apartment behind electric gates deep in the middle of the countryside in the place with no street lighting right next to your own private BUPA hospital (also in the mystery place with no street lighting). Of course you earn £200,000 (tax free) and so you are very special and can do whatever you like (until the point at which you are jailed for non payment of council tax and income tax and your luxury apartment is repossessed).

I'm surprised that there are jobs paying £200k to people who can barely string a sentence together but hey, what do I know?

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:35

he's banned

RandomNPC · 19/01/2015 23:36

I googled his username because I'm a nosy bastard and came across a rather ungrammatical attempt to flog 'debt free' solutions on another business site.

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:36

where did everybody go?

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:37

got a link to that? got to be really funny, and well worth a look at.

atticusclaw · 19/01/2015 23:38

He'll be back later with a 23 on the end of his username.

Debt free solutions. Why am I not surprised?

RandomNPC · 19/01/2015 23:41

Google his original username, and look at the top result. The site itself doesn't have much, but the Google link has some interesting stuff. I imagine they might have deleted him too. Someone of that exact username appears to be on a 'flirt' site too, whatever that is.

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:43

interesting

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:44

i bet it's lonely being a free man. it look's that way

RandomNPC · 19/01/2015 23:45

Blimey!

to think the 'common law/freeman on the land' thing is a whole load of bollocks?
davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:45

found his user on gardenweb wtf is that??

davidcameron8081 · 19/01/2015 23:47

thats nasty man.awww! pc covered in tea

Dawndonnaagain · 19/01/2015 23:58

TO ALL OF YOU TRY IT, YOU ONLY SAY THAT THEY'RE FREELOADERS BECAUSE YOUR TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND LEGALESE AND UK LAWS,
ACTS AND STATUTES.

Hmm. My brother is a barrister, on consultation he reckons that he's quite capable of not only understanding law but teaching it too. He would be quite happy to direct you to someone who can explain it to you too because you quite obviously have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever.

atticusclaw · 20/01/2015 00:01

I'm a lawyer too. I therefore have a pretty good understanding of "LEGALESE UK LAWS, ACTS AND STATUTES"

RandomNPC · 20/01/2015 00:02

He's not here. He's retreated to his secret volcano base, stroking his cat.

TwatFaceBitch · 20/01/2015 00:06

How have I missed thread?Shock
I shall have to read it all tomorrow.

davidcameron8081 · 20/01/2015 00:15

this forum has died

davidcameron8081 · 20/01/2015 00:16

how do they not pay council tax , i just dont get it!

RandomNPC · 20/01/2015 00:22

This thread has slowed down, yes. The rest of MN is yours to explore though.

NatashaGurdin · 20/01/2015 08:37

I think these people are completely mad but I wonder if his username was a clumsy play on Wat Tyler who challenged the law of the land and came off very much the 'worse for wear' ... Smile

LisaMed · 20/01/2015 09:12

I didn't mind the personal attack on me as it proved that he couldn't show why the Family Law Act 1996 was Admiralty law.

I'm also quite proud of the attack on my foul language as I am so moderate on other threads I feel like it is a mumsnet badge of honour.

Besides, I need a smile today and the thought of me being a snob made me laugh out loud.

Did anyone see this www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2909591/Pensioner-claims-council-clean-order-breaches-Magna-Carta.html
I said some rude words when I saw that as well.

NatashaGurdin · 20/01/2015 09:18

Why do they keep referencing the Magna Carta though, it didn't apply to everyone did it? Only the nobility who wanted to have more power and the king to have less and it must have been superseded by many laws since then. Hmm

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