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to wish children at school didn't bring sweets in for the whole class on the birthday

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brt100 · 01/06/2014 10:50

Dn seams to always be coming home with sweets, I just think it should be up to the parents to decide on these things, I would be livid. Should the school ban this?

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Gileswithachainsaw · 03/06/2014 21:41

I'm not encouraging junk food. I'm saying that as part of a healthy life style there's room for sweets and junk.

Eat junk daily of course there will be problems.

But you aren't out the woods living off kale and pasta either.

IdkickJilliansAss · 03/06/2014 21:42

I don't know if this has been answered (16 Pages!!) why can't you simply take them away if you don't want your child to have them?

brt100 · 03/06/2014 21:46

Giles your spouting the junk that is spewed by the junk food industry and their new scam to encourage junk by saying ITE all about balance and treat times.

Some foods are harmful for health and have no part in a healthy diet. If the treat was a couple of times a month fine probably a small amount of damage. But these treats add up.

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rowna · 03/06/2014 21:47

I don't know if this has been answered (16 Pages!!) why can't you simply take them away if you don't want your child to have them?

Because they eat them before you see them.

FunnyFoot · 03/06/2014 21:47

To echo Sirzy I teach my children the difference between healthy food choices and non healthy. I don't ban them but I teach them moderation. I do this because I can only control what they eat for a certain number of years. After that they will eat what they please.
If I ban sweets/junk now do you really think that will stop them eating them in later life?
Do you think all sweets/junk will be removed from shops?

No they won't so isn't it better to teach them that yes these foods are out there all the time within easy reach but you do not need to eaten them constantly. Teaching them you can have a healthy diet and the occasional treat, will hopefully stay with them in to adulthood as appose to removing the temptation temporarily and then not educating them.

ThatBloodyWoman · 03/06/2014 21:48

I will have to accept it if its not banned Funny -what a silly question! Whst would you have me do in my burning fanatical fervour?

Look I don't care what you all chose to do at home, as its your call.

All I'm saying is one tiny little thing that won't affect any of your childrens dietary scope.

brt100 · 03/06/2014 21:49

Do you think all sweets/junk will be removed from shops?

No all I'm saying is they have no place in school given out by someone they trust, usually their teacher and encourage them as a nice/ good thing.

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insanityscatching · 03/06/2014 21:50

A girl who went to school with ds was banned from having any treats and never allowed to buy her own. She would have been a size 8 when she left school at 18 she's 23 now and at least size 24 (bigger than someone I know is size 24 anyway) It's not banning that keeps a child healthy it's allowing them to learn self control IME

FunnyFoot · 03/06/2014 21:51

I don't think it is a silly question That I have no idea if you will choose to go to the governors/papers/FB if it does not go your way that's why I asked.

All I'm saying is one tiny little thing that won't affect any of your childrens dietary scope.

Then why are you calling for a ban?

Gileswithachainsaw · 03/06/2014 21:52

ALL foods are harmful if consumed in vast quantities.

It's about excercise, portion size,, and being sensible with when and how much of certain foods that you eat.

I hate macdonalds and Burger King. They taste vile, I never go there. But I wouldn't stop dd going there with a friend.

Instead of panicking over it I make sure I make a decent meal the following day.

nibbers · 03/06/2014 21:52

I get that for the OP its not just about 'a bag of sweets'. But seriously OP, get a bit of perspective.

Its about moderation, learning to have a balanced diet that (gasp) may contain things that have no nutritional value. Not every day, all the time but occasionally - and for kids a small treat is a fun thing to share with friends.

I send in cake for birthdays (have taken note and will now always make sure it is cut first) not haribo, but then our kids go to a small school with small classes - I would imagine its much easier to do cake for 15 than for 30.

I had never thought about the gelatin in haribo though.

For those that don't want their children to have sweets etc - surely you have some responsibility here. Tell the teacher your preference, leave alternatives if there is an allergy (if possible), do something so they aren't the one stood on the side, missing out.

Is this really the sort of stuff that worries people who have no children

ChrisMooseAlbanians · 03/06/2014 21:57

I would only be annoyed because DD has so many allergies she can't eat them!! Sad

ThatBloodyWoman · 03/06/2014 21:59

No you'll need to explain your last post Funny.....

Me asking for a ban on sweets being handed out after school would not affect your childs dietary scope.You can give them sweets whenever you please.

I don't get what you're saying Confused

Sirzy · 03/06/2014 21:59

I always check if there are any dietary requirements and what they are allowed and either send in the same all around of make sure there is a 'safe' alternative so nobody is left out due to allergies.

5madthings · 03/06/2014 22:00

The point is its about balance.

I provide all my kids food, I do pack ups as school dinners are shit. So other than meals at friends houses/parties I am in control of their diet.

You need to look at the big picture of what they are eating ie over a few weeks/a month.

In that context a pack of haribo once a fortnight or even once a week is fine. They may also get a pudding with one meal a week (we don't do pudding as routline but there is aalways fruit).

Then say an ice cream or small treat at wkend, the odd biscuit etc. But mainly home prepared food veg, meat, pasta, rice, potatoes, noodles etc. Plus fruit, porridge for bfast, a healthy packed lunch and plenty of exercise ie

Today 2mile scootering to school, swimming lesson at school and running around at playtime. Then a mile to a kung fu class on scooter, the kung fu class and then two miles home on scooter.

Other days they go to park after school or running club or on the trampoline or gymnastics and they bike or scooter to School everyday and it's two miles, so four miles a day. (12 for me as I have pre school run as well).

So the balance is a healthy diet with treats and plenty of exercise. And skinny as whippet kids who are healthy and full of energy.

So no I don't give a shit about a tiny packet of haribo. The kids like it and they always say happy Birthday and thankyou to the giver (bday child gets to stand with teacher and help hand out). And it then goes in book bag and so I can say to save it for after dinner etc.

Once they are at high school they have their own money and can buy what they want and you will be wishing for the day's of one tiny pack of haribo a week.... Though actually my two high school aged kids are pretty good and haven't gone mad. But judging by many kids I see a lot of kids do go a bit crazy. Tbf I remember doing similar at that age but now am conscious of what I eat, still love chocolate but as I said I do 12miles a day just on school run, I go running we go on lots if walks/swimming etc as a family, again getting the balance!!

LackaDAISYcal · 03/06/2014 22:04

actually the kids get to hand out the sweets themselves generally. they stand at the front, or at the door and the classmates get one as they leave. I don't think it's quite a case of state sanctioned child abuse just yet.

I have a much more pressing moral dilemma. DD and another child in the class share the same birthday. Should the other mum and I:

a) decide who gives cakes and who gives sweets?
b) share the cost so only one sugary item is given out between them?
c) not bother as the other mum will be doing it and risk our children being considered mean if no-one brings anything in?
d) buckle under the weight of the righteous indignation from all the childless aunties

Get a grip OP, seriously. As others have pointed out, those that want their kids to have the odd sweet allow their kids to eat them, those that don't take them from the child in the playground and eat them themselves later or ask the teacher that they are left out/tell the child to refuse.

Of all the things to get aerated about as a parent, health and tooth enamel isues aside, the odd bag of haribo or funsize choc bar is not one of them.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 03/06/2014 22:05

Agree 5 mad I always like your posts.

LackaDAISYcal · 03/06/2014 22:06

though I have made lots of crochet bookworm bookmarks for a craft stall that I might send in instead, but only cos I'm coeliac and a shit baker and have enough to do with the sugar laden crap for her tea party on Sunday..

Sirzy · 03/06/2014 22:06

Lacka My sister and her best friend shared the same birthday - they both took sweets in on the same day! Imagine the uproar from some with that one.

Seriously I would talk to the other parent and maybe club together to share the cost.

ThatBloodyWoman · 03/06/2014 22:07

I do not truly understand why a child would suffer by not having a sweet after school, when they can go home and flipping well gorge on them if thats the choice made.

FunnyFoot · 03/06/2014 22:10

Because I don't understand why you are asking for a ban.

I could understand if you put it to a vote with other parents as there are more children affected by the ban than just yours so that would give other parents the opportunity to voice their opinion. By asking for a ban your are forcing your opinion on to them. I see this the other way too, by not asking for all parents input and just dishing out sweets they are not listen to those parents like yourself who do not want the sweets to be dished out.

If it comes back as a ban then that is the majority vote everyone will have had their say but majority will rule. If it is a no ban then you and others who agree can take steps to ensure their children are given an alternative.

Gileswithachainsaw · 03/06/2014 22:10

Again you miss the point, of course the kids would be fine.

But those kids who can't afford a party who's birthday passes without recognition from his or her friends as a result, they are the ones who miss out.

Chippednailvarnish · 03/06/2014 22:12

Because the very reason why my kids aren't overweight with rotten teeth is because the sweets they get from school are an occasional treat to celebrate a friends birthday.

We rarely have sweets at home so a few from school isn't a problem.

JohnCusacksWife · 03/06/2014 22:12

What a thread! We don't have this custom at our school but if they did I couldn't get worked up about it. And if my kids had dietary/religious/dental reasons for not eating sweets I'd just make sure the teacher knew and they wouldn't get them. No drama!

Some people really need a sense of perspective. If kids already have a good diet then one wee sweet will do no harm.

ThatBloodyWoman · 03/06/2014 22:15

Funny I never was going to ask for a ban until this thread when I realised how little other parents seem to care about my child, and other children in similar situations. A vote wouldn't come back in my favour, because the likes of Giles think marking a childs birthday with sweets is more important than other childrens genuine health problems.

Fwiw my children have had no party years and not handed out sweets and managed.

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