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AIBU?

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To feel free to use other children's toys in the sandpit?

276 replies

HarderToKidnap · 27/05/2014 23:52

We go to lots of parks with our 2.4yo DS. He loves the sandpit and often we take our own spades etc, although sometimes we forget and sometimes go somewhere adhoc and don't have things with us, or go to a new place where we don't realise there is a sandpit.

Now, often in communal sandpits there are various buckets and spades lying around looking abandoned. I always feel free to give these to DS to use, having had a quick peek round for the owner. If after I pick up the spade I can't see anyone looking territorial, I will just give it to him to use. I keep an eye out for anyone coming near us spadeless, so I can quickly check with them whether the spade is theirs, and leave the stuff where i found it when we're ready to go. If I abandon my spade whilst DS toddles off to another attraction and I see someone else using it, I never mind. Just part of being at the park.

Anyway, got a mouthful off someone the other day for using a bucket they'd left in the pit. They'd stuck some paper pictures onto the bucket and one had come off. I'd noticed this before picking up the bucket, which had been laid there a good twenty minutes before DS picked it up. I stashed the paper pic safely and was intending to leave it in the bucket when we left. To reiterate pic had already come off bucket and was next to it. They were REALLY cross about the use of the bucket and obv thought we'd caused the pic to come off.

Discussing with friends today, there seems to be an even split between those who thought I was hideous for using someone else's toys, and those who thought mouthy mother was a lunatic. MN Jury, what say ye?

P.S., I'm not intending to change my behaviour at all, btw, regardless of MN consensus. I love the give and take in the sandpit and have had nothing but positive interactions with other mums and kids re the sharing of toys, save this one incident. This AIBU is purely for information gathering purposes!

OP posts:
PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 10:17

RockinHippy:

There. Was. No-one. There. To. Ask.

The. Bucket. Had. Been. Abandoned.

soontobeslendergirl · 29/05/2014 11:48

If. there. is. no-one. there. to. ask. then. you. leave. well. alone.

Strangely, the only person who decided to make a personal attack is one of the caring sharing brigrade who then questions what principles I am passing on?

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 11:50

How long do you wait? Forever? What if said bucket is still there the next day?

soontobeslendergirl · 29/05/2014 12:08

yes, forever, why not?? - it doesn't belong to you and surely if you were back at the park the next day you'd have remembered your own things by then?

Viviennemary · 29/05/2014 12:09

Then hand it in at a local police station. I don't think it it's generally a good idea to teach small children it is quite acceptable to play with toys that don't belong to them. A lot of people think it isn't. And I can see their point of view. If it's not yours leave it alone is the simplest rule.

gorionine · 29/05/2014 12:27

Ok , I am going to answer it for you

If it is not yours, it does not matter how long it has stay unattended, even after a week it does not magically become yours to use freely.

gorionine · 29/05/2014 12:30

Sorry, Xposted

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 12:54

Well I think that is nonsense. Let's all just leave our stuff where we like.

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 13:01

By the way, in case you think I am a bucket-stealing criminal, I never have. My DS found a fiver outside the village shop on the way to school this morning. We handed it in to the shop, and told them to stick it in the charity tub if no-one collected it. In the "don't touch it isn't yours" logic, that fiver would have blown away. Would no-one here have picked it up at all? What about the times that things are lost and the owner is grateful that you put it on a well (etc)? My FIL left DD's scooter and someone else in the village brought it home for me her DS scooted it all the way here

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 13:01

I am so glad that I live somewhere the kids all know each other and share.

gorionine · 29/05/2014 13:14

Primlass, saying that the fact a person might leave an item unattended or forget it for a period of time doesn't make it fair game for you to use doesn't mean that people will leave more stuff everywhere all the time, how do you work that one out? Confused

gorionine · 29/05/2014 13:15

Sorry, PrimalLass, I just amputated a syllable!

gorionine · 29/05/2014 13:18

But surely, picking something up in order to find it's owner or put it in a visible place for the owner to find back is not the same as using it because the owner is not in sight or am I really missing something here?

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 13:33

No I was just exaggerating. Bored of this now, and glad I live somewhere kinder.

gorionine · 29/05/2014 13:37

Good riddance!

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 13:46

You are so nice Thanks

gorionine · 29/05/2014 13:49

[leaves flowers in the middle of thread for someone to help themselves with]

PrimalLass · 29/05/2014 13:49

You must have taken mine then.

springdrinks · 29/05/2014 14:33

I'm surprised by this thread. We used to live best a lovely park with a sandpit. The local council had decided that it would give a number if toys to the sandpit together with another donation from the local okay group - I was only aware of this because I was in the local park committee. There was nothing indicating ownership of lack if on any if the toys.

I'm really surprised by the number if people on this thread who would forbid their child to play with toys like this in case the owner came looking for them. I'm quite glad for the park that it didn't happen at all in practice and everyone played with the communal toys and left them behind when they'd finished.

intheenddotcom · 29/05/2014 21:17

gorionine - It's not about not sharing though, it's about having the manners to ask. I left my coffee and book at my seat on the train (intercity so reserved seats) today while I nipped to the loo - would I have been annoyed to find the lady next to me reading the book and drinking the coffee? Of course!

Obviously if the same toy is there abandoned the next day then play with it by all means, but don't just pounce on any toy you think may be left unattended.

gorionine · 29/05/2014 21:29

intheenddotcom That is what i have been saying from the start.

Bumpandkind · 29/05/2014 22:06

Only on page two so things may have changed. OP I'm with you, I thought most parent would be. This thread has been a bit of an eye opener to parental attitudes!

BazilGin · 29/05/2014 22:30

I hate the whole sandpit toy snatching. We used to take a nice set and whatever dd (2) was not holding in her hand, was often snatched without asking by older children. A few seconds later she turns around to play with that particular toy and sees another child playing with it. Then it's me asking for them back. Akward! We are now sticking with a bucket and spade only and they still get snatched if she is not holding bith of them, from right under her nose (and mine). Ffs, if you want your child playing in the sandpit, bring them a toy or two. This is my pet hate! Dd is taught not to play with other children's toys ans she doesn't attempt to! (And she is 2).

violetlights · 02/06/2014 07:25

Honestly I find this thread really depressing...

I can't believe the number of adults who get upset that other children play with their DC's toys... Those who say "well, I wouldn't use someone else's so why should I let someone use mine?" Isn't that exactly what is wrong with the world? And all this talk of thieving? A small child playing with a bucket a thief?

This is such a petty subject but one which is so revealing.

soontobeslendergirl · 02/06/2014 08:07

Violet, most people are saying they would allow children to share, the difference with what some people are doing is not allowing the owner the privilege of that generosity by just taking and using. Why we insist on different rules for children's things than we do for adult 's I don't know.